Danny_E30 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 Hey all, just wondering what you all would suggest. Turbo or V8 in a e30 318i? And what would be cheaper? Cheers, Danny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grantdavis28 8 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) v8 to many turbos around or hell v12 someones done it! Edit: just checked google... v12 twin turbo! Edited November 20, 2008 by GRUNT5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CamB 48 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 Hey all, just wondering what you all would suggest. Turbo or V8 in a e30 318i? What is your power goal? And what would be cheaper? Unless you are good at fabricating, neither of them. Both can be very expensive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 What is your power goal? Unless you are good at fabricating, neither of them. Both will be very expensive. Edited Turbo what? V8 What? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grantdavis28 8 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) correct me if im wrong but wouldnt this be one of the cheapest ways? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo-Kit-B...bayphotohosting Edit: my bad only for 6 cylinder... Edited November 20, 2008 by GRUNT5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 178 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 Unless you are made of money, or as has been said, an awesome fabricator and mechanic... buy a car with a V8 or turbo already in it. If you do either of those things to a 318i you'll have to upgrade the suspension, brakes, do chassis strengthening to cope with the excess torque (if you go V8 route) etc etc etc. ... and at the end of the day, it's just a 318 with a V8 in it. Money... say hello to toilet. (Sorry, not meaning to be a dick... but that's just how I see it) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CamB 48 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) correct me if im wrong but wouldnt this be one of the cheapest ways? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo-Kit-B...bayphotohosting Edit: my bad only for 6 cylinder... Most of that kit is craaaaaaaaaap. You need bigger injectors. You need a downpipe for the turbo. More importantly, you still need a computer to control fuel/spark. Yes, I know people do it with rising rate fuel pressure regulators and blah blah blah. But I am convinced the only proper way to do it is with a proper standalone EMS like a Link, or Megasquirt (for a cheap option). US$800 would quickly become NZ$4-5k if you can weld and know what you are doing, even for fairly low boost. Paying someone else? Easily $2-3k more I reckon by the time the bugs are ironed out. Edited November 20, 2008 by CamB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westy 614 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 And what would be cheaper? Cheers, Danny. If you have to ask you cant afford it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickSilver 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 If you have to ask you cant afford it. +10 ! What he said! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 1 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 Modifying cars is not a cheap game. If you simply want a fast car just buy one, not worth building one. I'd say most of the people on here with turbo' or motor swaps do it because they like playing with cars or wanted something different (or just got too far in before they realised what they wanted) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
isis 16 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 i sold a bmw part to a guy that had an e36 318i that he had turboed - slap it on but was still running on rear drums! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topcat 11 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 one way to answer your Q is, to ask yourself; Am I planning to keep it????? how much do really want it? how much am i prepared to spend? how much over and above am i willing to spend when the budget blows out? will i keep at it to finish it,or will it be another '90% compelete' trademe auction? Is my job safe,so i can pay for it,and able to pay the mortgage/rent? if i do sell it,will someone buy it? knowing these simple answers will help in deciding on what you want. If all check lights are green, go for the V8, two blower option. even better still V12 twin hairdryer setup. check utube endsless laughs that kit is cheap,and easy to setup in the car.add 3-4k for injectors and a stand-alone ecu fuel pump,plumbing,bits and bobs.and be perpared to fix crack welds,replace turbo etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 Unless you are made of money, or as has been said, an awesome fabricator and mechanic... buy a car with a V8 or turbo already in it. If you do either of those things to a 318i you'll have to upgrade the suspension, brakes, do chassis strengthening to cope with the excess torque (if you go V8 route) etc etc etc. ... and at the end of the day, it's just a 318 with a V8 in it. Money... say hello to toilet. (Sorry, not meaning to be a dick... but that's just how I see it) Agree 100%.. Sad but True.. Man I wish I was an engineer, id have the coolest garage. An RB-26 E30, a 3SGTE AE82.. A 2JZGTE Altezza.. A B16a Mini the list goes on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjay 8 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 1jzgte tez http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...n-189082761.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danny_E30 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2008 one way to answer your Q is, to ask yourself; Am I planning to keep it????? how much do really want it? how much am i prepared to spend? how much over and above am i willing to spend when the budget blows out? will i keep at it to finish it,or will it be another '90% compelete' trademe auction? Is my job safe,so i can pay for it,and able to pay the mortgage/rent? if i do sell it,will someone buy it? Thanks for the comments guys and girls. Yes i've been over those questions more than enough haha. All are green lights as i don't pay any living costs, just pay for petrol Thanks again all! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CamB 48 Report post Posted November 21, 2008 Thanks for the comments guys and girls. Yes i've been over those questions more than enough haha. All are green lights as i don't pay any living costs, just pay for petrol Thanks again all! Well it comes back to power goal then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drifty325i 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2008 Dont bother with a v8 they are so slow and sound so bad............ worse thing you could do to an e30.....haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lbirgel 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2008 buy a e36 m3. there fast and pretty cheap for a high preformance car!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiB 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2008 I vote V8, Kemp Rd taught me that displacement rules. But listen to what people are trying to tell you, you will need more money than what ever figure you think will cover it. Agree 100%.. Sad but True.. Man I wish I was an engineer, id have the coolest garage. An RB-26 E30, a 3SGTE AE82.. A 2JZGTE Altezza.. A B16a Mini the list goes on Friend has a 3SGTE AE82 race car. Easy 230kph at the end of the Puke straight, BUT 300whp+ and 900kg FWD car = torque steer for Africa. Not sure why you'd want one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SamSpargo Report post Posted November 21, 2008 turbo M10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted November 21, 2008 1jzgte tez http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...n-189082761.htm That’s awesome, had I not just purchased a car for the Missus that would be in my Garage. Why is it that when you buy a new car something you really want pops up a week later!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danny_E30 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2008 Well it comes back to power goal then.Yeah, uhm looking at around 250-300 hp.Dont bother with a v8 they are so slow and sound so bad............ worse thing you could do to an e30.....hahaHaha, im going to ponder on this idea for a bit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenday-rulz21 4 Report post Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) Yeah, uhm looking at around 250-300 hp.Just buy a 540. Cheaper than a conversion. 540 is 280hp Edited November 21, 2008 by Nick021 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e30plz 1 Report post Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) Just buy a 540. Cheaper than a conversion. 540 is 280hpBut E30FTMFW!Just save up for a 325i while you enjoy the amount of petrol your 318i uses.. Way easier than all the money a conversion would cost and faster than a 318i. Ahh the benefits of driving a 316i.. Edited November 21, 2008 by //James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CamB 48 Report post Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) My opinion... Turbo your M10 if you can DIY (although 250hp is getting up there)*. Put in a Nissan CA18DET (cheapest) or SR20DET if not, or a Toyota V8. Japanese option are probably the most cost effective IF you can keep their stock computers. The CA and SR are my suggestions as the exhaust is on the passenger side. You'll need a gearbox and custom propshaft for the Jap options. Good examples of M10 turbos: http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46634 http://www.bimmersport.co.nz/forums/index.php?showtopic=8958 Just remember Mike's comment in this thread on page one: Modifying cars is not a cheap game. If you simply want a fast car just buy one, not worth building one. I'd say most of the people on here with turbo' or motor swaps do it because they like playing with cars or wanted something different (or just got too far in before they realised what they wanted) * Yes I know people have 3,465,869,708hp from their M10. Ask me when mine's finished and been to the dyno, but I'm doing it properly (forged pistons, 2 litres not 1.8, decent ECU, etc) and will be delighted if I can make 250hp at 14psi, and it doesn't blow up. (edit) As t cost - just estimate what you think it will be, then double it. That should be close enough... Edited November 21, 2008 by CamB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
