Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
BreakMyWindow

E39 M5 restoration project

Recommended Posts

Good commitment, Martin. Hope mine last a bit longer... That looks like a major PITA.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This is not curing my desire to own one of these cars

Edited by kiwi535

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

great read. was it you in pakuranga lastnight? i was i the brown e30. if so it sounds mean !!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

great read. was it you in pakuranga lastnight? i was i the brown e30. if so it sounds mean !!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

never had this problem with mine. I'll need to check. I'll get the wife to drive around with me in the boot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

great read. was it you in pakuranga lastnight? i was i the brown e30. if so it sounds mean !!

Yep that would've been me. Your E30 is a beaut!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

never had this problem with mine. I'll need to check. I'll get the wife to drive around with me in the boot.

You should be able to smell it from the drivers seat if they're really bad. Otherwise after a thrash, open the boot and have a smell.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yep that would've been me. Your E30 is a beaut!

Cheers bud. When's the next Auckland meet? Would be keen to have a perv at your car.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Right O. Next on the agenda is to replace these little power robbing, idle unstabilizing, Vanos fault code producing b@stards.

lrwe.jpg

The e39 M5 has a total of 4 cam position sensors - 1 for each intake cam, and 1 for each exhaust cam. Unfortunately, they're located on the back of the cylinder heads, and it's a royal PITA to get to them on the passenger side. The intake CPS is located roughly where the arrow points to, but a bit deeper, under a box and a bracket that contains all the wiring to the DME, and Bank 2 ignition coils. Exhaust sensor, deeper and closer to the DME, and obstructed by the heater coolant hoses.

e5g4.jpg

Drivers side is a lot easier, I can see both bolts and connectors for the CPS's. Passenger side will be done using a small mirror, a torch but mostly blind. I may get to the passenger exhaust cps from underneath. I don't have spaghetti arms so it's gonna be annoying.

Will include some more notes and pics for the keen diy'er when I'm done.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Job done. Mostly easy if you have the right tools, patience, and don't mind hands that look like they've been mauled by a cat. Took me about 6 hours all up doing it slowly and carefully, with breaks and photo taking. All CPS's were original as verified by the date codes on the parts. No fault codes produced in my ownership for them being bad, so It's a bit of preventative maintenance. There are theories that these do slowly fail before producing a fault code. I guess I'll see in the next while if it's made an improvement.

Below are a few notes and pics that should be helpful to those tackling this job.

Remove the weather strip and cowling cover that runs along the centre of the lower windshield cover (4 screws that twist and pull out) gives your arms and hands a bit more working room :

cm4h.jpg

Remove these 3 hoses running to the heater. About 1 litre of coolant drips out, makes life A LOT easier if you have big mits for hands :

sbzf.jpg

Passenger side Intake CPS removed. These are the tools I used to remove it. There is a bracket that attaches the wiring loom box and fuel line bracket to the rear of the cylinder head. It also obstructs the hex screw required to remove the intake CPS - All needs to be removed blind. There is a 10mm bolt right in between the bracket that affixes a cover to the cylinder head - DO NOT remove it, coolant comes out. Very easy to get confused, so getting a good feel for things, and using an inspection mirror goes a long way.

x3kq.jpg

In these pics, you can see the hex screw for the passenger side Exhaust cps. This is why life becomes better with those heater hoses removed and tucked in out of the way. Remove the hex screw, and pull the sensor out with the plug connected - Much easier to unplug this way.

5tv4.jpg

2fcv.jpg

Over to the drivers side now. The intake CPS is just as much of a c#nt to remove as you have another stupid bracket like on the passenger side in the way. I spent a good hour after trying to get the bracket back in after the cps was swapped out, but gave up. Next time I have access to a hoist I might install back in then. No issues afaik with it not being there for now. Looking at the reflection in the inspection mirror below, you can see the hole for where the car's original intake CPS lived.

qc6o.jpg

Tools used to get both intake and exhaust CPS's out, and new ones back in.

ga6w.jpg

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Happy to report the M5 has got it's mojo back after swapping out the CPS's. The DSC light is now lighting up where it didn't before ;-) Feels like it's gained back an extra 30 - 40hp and a whole lot of torque in the mid range. Seemed to have taken a bout 1/3 of a tank of spirited driving over the passed couple of days for it to wake up. Will be popping it on the same dyno where it did 220 rwkw late last year to compare.

Interesting to see that although the CPS's seemed fine (no fault codes, vanos tests passing) they seem to degrade over time, probably due to the numerous heat cycles since 1999.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The wheels have a hot date with Arrow wheels next week for a full refurb using the oem shadow chrome process.

As you can see the current state of the wheels really lets down the appearance of the car, the original shadow chrome paint is bubbling and peeling off, and the driver side front wheel has been repainted at some stage in just plain silver - sticks out like dogs b@lls.

1.jpg

22.jpg

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wheels all done and ready for a few coats of wheel sealant. Arrow wheels did a fantastic job of refinishing them in the OEM shadow Chrome.

Pic of the front without a camera flash :

1.jpg

In dark light showing the shadow chrome effect :

2.jpg

Pic with a flash turned on showing more shadow chrome effect :

3.jpg

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looking good. They'll transform the car... Now, what about that bonnet! ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's on the agenda, along with the saggy rear diffuser and new exhaust tips. ....Need at least 40 hours removing all that sika flex for the front grilles though ;-)

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Restoration project is nearing the end. Pretty good going for less than 12 months of ownership. Has been a very enjoyable, yet frustrating experience at times...

Have learned a lot about the e39 m5 along the way, and overall i'm very happy with the outcome. Have considered doing some mods, but imo it's already a modded e39 by the M divison so will leave as is for now, and just keep her well maintained.

Just a few little things to be done to bring it up to my standard (famous last words...)

- Fix stone chips on bonnet (re-spray)

- fix corrosion on window trims

- Get a jack

- New front inner door sill trim panels

- Install genuine xenon headlamp units (awaiting arrival)

Very happy with the wheel refurb, has cleaned up the appearance.

wheels.jpg

wheels2.jpg

wheels3.jpg

wheels4.jpg

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wrong M5, Mike. This one's Martin's. Definitely looking good though.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Update..

Xenons installed and working as they should. Massive difference between xenon and halogen with the e39 facelift headlights. The units i bought had broken adjusters, and a broken adjustment screw on the low beam side. A Few hours over the weekend, involving patience, cursing, and some epoxy glue has done the trick. Any one needing to replace the headlight adjusters in their FL headlights in the e39, PM me and I will happy to assist with the technique to get the job done without the hassle of baking/heating the units to melt the glue holding the front lenses on.

Told myself I wouldn't do any mods but have made one mod which will keep the power delivery consistent...

Installed an air temp sensor in the corner of the front lower grill, just before the lower air intake tube on the drivers side. Disabled the stock temp sensor in the passenger side MAF. Sucked air temp is now much closer to ambient temp at all times where as before, eg after an hours driving, the sucked air temp was at least 40 deg c higher than ambient, which results in the dme retarding ignition, adding fuel resulting in power loss. The stock temp sensor is incorporated in the MAF, which is exposed to engine bay heat, causing an atrificially high reading of sucked air temps.

Thinking about making up a proper CAI setup now, similar to the kit from Evolve automotive in the UK. Seems to be a significant flaw the factory CAI setup, as Evolve have seen gains of 8 - 10BHP just from a CAI setup alone - no remapping.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As mentioned in another thread - Will be getting a tune done through Evolve Automotive in the UK soon. Just a simple power tune for now. Will be running the Alpha-N tune at a later stage.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As mentioned in another thread - Will be getting a tune done through Evolve Automotive in the UK soon. Just a simple power tune for now. Will be running the Alpha-N tune at a later stage.

Awesome to hear. Looking forward to feedback on that.

If I go ahead with an Akrapovic exhaust I'll get one of their tunes done. Not sure if there is much point in it unless I do a primary cat delete though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...