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No offence taken Olaf, I know you just wanted to have a look :D

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like the t-shirt reads:

I'm not a

gynecologist

but I'll take

a look

:lol:

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Yeah well that's cheating isn't it, no issues on full lock ?

P.S. NIIIIICE Ohlins - how many amputees in your family , they must have been more than just an arm and a leg?

Cos I know what I paid for 2 for the bike

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man, 003's are exceptionally well-priced at the moment. I started looking around on Friday, and found - as Ron has pointed out in another thread - that the average to mid-range performance tyres come in from most places around $1k , with the premium end $1.2k-$1.4k.

Imagine my surprise when finding sub-$900 pricing for 003s in 225/45/17 and 245/40/17 on the car. If you were completely ruthless and pushing for the lowest possible price and nevermind the impact to the market (eg you get Tony's Tyres trying to undersell the world to buy your business), it is entirely likely one could push the envelope and find these llantas for the mid-to-high $700s. On your car. At least at the moment.

Best discovery made while I've been looking around, is finding a company I want to do business with for tyres and alignment. The pricing is sharp enough, but the service is worth more to me than the lowest price so I'll happy to be in the sub-$900 bracket.

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I take the approach of getting the sharpest price on tyres and then going to the best wheel alignment guy, which in Auckland is Peter Alder at Giltrap Volkswagen.

The tyre jockeys don't make the tyre and fitting isn't rocket science, wheel alignment is, Pete usually does a rebalance cos the tyre jockeys are crap at it.

A crap wheel alignment wrecks tyres regardless of price and "fitting service" quality.

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can't argue with that, Ron.

The guy I'll be using is recommended by a good friend, who has more german cars than I have digits, and additional sets of rims to boot. very particular is he. It was particularly refreshing to find a tyre guy who genuinely knows his onions.

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There are very few good tyre guys left so look after him.

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Ron the Ohlins were purchased off this forum along with some Eibach sway bars, all for a very reasonable price. The Ohlins really work, the springs are firm, but as the shocks are adjustable I have been able to find a reasonable compromise for street use. THe E46 is my fun car so I dont care that the ride is on the firm side and as a bonus my wife doesn't even notice, probably because the big bumps get soaked up.

No issues at full lock. But as mentioned the Ohlins are smaller in diameter than a stock setup. I haven't measured the gap so I am not sure if this is an issue, but the guys on the US E46 forum seem to run 245's up front without problems.

The front end grip increase with the wider tyres is especially noticeable in low to mid speed corners it just points and goes. At higher speed there is a hint of oversteer as the front bites but it's closer to neutral than anything else and can be moderated by the throttle. The front is currently set up to a be fraction softer than the rear. I can use another setting on the sway bar to stiffen it up and I may try that but I have to say that at legal speeds the balance is great. I will probably look to raise the rear a fraction 10-12mm as much for looks but this may make oversteer a bit more so will do it in combination with resetting the front Anti sway bar and perhaps firm up the compression damping.

The Re003's seem to work well as street tyre they were nice and predictable in the wet last week and ride quality is decent as I suspect they are not super stiff in the sidewall. Overall I am happy with the tyres, decent tyre for not too much money and with the E46 chassis just about sorted the car is a pleasure to drive in the twisties. All it needs is another 100 or so HP. (and a manual gearbox)

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John,

If the back feels good then raising it will reduce rear grip and result in more oversteer, stiffening the front to bring in more roll bar action will should bring balance back to neutral and balance up the grip as it sounds like the rear is doing more work that the front , making the wider tyres feel better. This will slow the front down a bit.

I have my Saab set up like this at the moment, but it does trade off absolute grip on all 4 wheels.

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Ron I dont get any bottoming out and ground clearance is ok (Just) but to be honest it looks wrong, the front is a low as I can go and the tyres are 1-1.5 cm below the guards while at the rear the tyres are below the guards.

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I agree, I run my 328 with the tail slightly up for the same reason and it sounds like we are running similar ride heights.

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it's like Gordon Gekko's catchphrase has mutated. in a good way!

"Rake is good" B)B)

edit: for those who missed the 80's, take a look at 80's blockbuster Wall Street.

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Can anyone recommend the S001s over the RE003s? People seem to think they are soft and knowing New Zealand roads I don't expect many kms from them.

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S001 is a higher ( than 003) performance tyre that replaces the RE050 - very good tyre , stiffer case better dynamics .

Somewhere between Michlin Pilot Sport 3 & Pilot super sport.

Likely to be next tyre to go on my 328 as i am finding the PS-3 a bit mellow for my driving style

Wear will depend on driving

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From the 30+ sets of BMW wheels that I've owned, Bridgestones came on 60% of them.

My favourite for sure, better value than Continental, Michelin or Pirelli.

My preference is the Potenza S001, however the RE050A features regularly & is a very competitive price second hand or new.

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Guess that settles it :) A nice Bridgestone deal on at the moment

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I realise this is an old thread but having fitted a new set of RE003s on my 335i I thought I would give an updare. The old front tyres were Nitto 830s and out back were a set of RE050 run flats. First impressions are that the front end is a lot more precise, turn in is noticeably more direct and I feel like it goes were it should now. The rear has a bit more compliance but grip wise it seems to be at least as good as the 050s maybe even better. I never really felt I could trust the run flats on anything other than bowling green smooth roads, they had a lot of harshness and the ride was jittery. On a typical NZ road with a few undulations and irregularities mid corner the 003 is just so much more predictable. I was considering S001s but having had them on my 335i on the original 17s I didnt think they were appreciably better than the 003s, not a fair comparison I know as one is a 40 series and one is 35. I suspect on a track the S001 would show its advantages. To sumarise I now have much sharper and more accurate turn in, the car feels more predictable and overall grip levels in the dry are higher especially up front. Later this week I am driving another 335 with 19s and its running some Falkens, I will report back when I have given it the 48 corner test.

 

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Good to hear, will definitely consider the re-003's for the 135i next time. Completely agree with you on the run flats. Have just ordered a set of pilot sport 4's. Cannot wait to get them on and get rid of these 

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I had some runflats on the 130i, then changed to nitto invos, then finally to re003s. what a huge step up in terms of grip, both wet and dry. the re003's inspired a lot of confidence on corners and also made the car feel lighter and more responsive in every way. easily the best i've had so far (havent tried michelin pss/ps3/ps4).

Just ordered a full set from tony's with their price beat guarantee. worked out a lot cheaper than bridgestone themselves (the buy 3 get 1 free deal didnt apply at the moment for some reason).

 

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I've currently got Re003s on the front and PS4s on the back. The PS4s feel a little more planted - but not much in it. What is noticeable is the extra road noise from the RE003s.

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RE003 are good for the money. But they are not the same catagory as PSS / PS4.

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$1200 for a staggered set of 18s

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On 10/11/2017 at 9:21 AM, m325i said:

RE003 are good for the money. But they are not the same catagory as PSS / PS4.

Probably not but they cost a lot less and when you get up to 9 or 10/10th driving it's generally well past what goes on on the highway. 

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RE003 got 2nd in a recent Wheels mag, lost due to road noise but had superior track and slalom results.  Competition was more mid range touring tires though, including Conti premium 5.

The winner was Maxxis Premitra HP5.

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I found the RE003's quiet on the E39. But they're a fairly quiet car, I suppose.

I don't find I get a lot of mileage out of them, but then until recently, most of our driving was on roads with no straights or flats. The school run has one long straight now, so I might get a little more ;)

I'm due two new tyres on the rear now:( I wish I'd rotated earlier, so I would feel happier about replacing all four when the fronts had worn a bit more.

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