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Our latest challenge @ HELLBM: 2007 118i Le Mans Blau M Sport powered by S65 with DCT.

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Using a 130 shell as a mockup test fitted E92M3 subframe,Steering column with linkage,S65 and DCT.

Fitted like it belonged there. Interestingly the chassis dimensions shared with E92 M3 and E87 are identical right down to the extra threaded holes for the M3 subframe.

Overall weight difference between the E92 M3 and E87 118i is approx. 400kg with 100kg weight difference between the motors. The finished S65 powered E87 will be approx. 250-300kg`s lighter.IMG_0727.thumb.JPG.5563cf1e9c99a9c8454c455fb6872b8b.JPGIMG_0728.thumb.JPG.f3e0f69735e74c836ef9c5a8808a7d2b.JPGIMG_0729.thumb.JPG.5e5b7b660a88a2e022b72549874098b0.JPGIMG_0731.thumb.JPG.70e5df04ce5d93a3270184948e4391e2.JPGIMG_0734.thumb.JPG.ac99585920d0b1977da33c07689f18c8.JPGIMG_0735.thumb.JPG.b686e5af4e14ce81bba2ae1e6974a170.JPGIMG_0736.thumb.JPG.ac94614bb116b4c1b1a3e11ff4c03072.JPGIMG_0739.thumb.JPG.a4a082877cfaea20614f973346ab01bc.JPG

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Haha you change your mind too often! No S65 for the red M3? 

I rather like this, looks like quite an easy swap with the clearly shared platform dimensions. 

May as well get more out off the somewhat forgotten 1 series hatch. 

Going to cage it or anything for track use or just make it a sleeper on the road?

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Still have a S65 with manual box put aside for the red M3 if and when time allows.

Sleeper on the road of course.

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This project is finally back on track. Found some time over the Xmas break to move things along.

Need to introduce the JBE and all E92 M3 wiring to give seamless integration. Using existing plugs and wiring wherever possible this is well under way thanks to the effort/time put in by James.

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Awesome, will have to call in and be nosy if I'm in the area sometime :P 

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Bearing replacement as preventive maintenance.IMG_1949.thumb.JPG.34a7e43b7521b0e4d4068f5e54c2a36d.JPGIMG_1950.thumb.JPG.6d8be29f79e04e6cc63eefecf82ab84c.JPG

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This is awesome!

 

I have it in my mind where you just leave the "118i" emblem on the back and let folks be surprised at the lights! :)

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Why it`s a good idea to replace the Rod Bearings (67000 km)IMG_1955.thumb.JPG.2179bde4088dafab42ec2797adc85f59.JPGIMG_1956.thumb.JPG.404381b8d58e8a8c384913cee37afe51.JPGIMG_1957.thumb.JPG.6dbbc4a4835e0084182b08560563d69b.JPG

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1 hour ago, Young Thrash Driver said:

Is that sort of wear usual or expected with these engines?

Apparently so. Catastrophic failure if left unchecked.

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Have you guys heard of BE bearings? They are the ones to go for for the S85 and S65 motors. Paired along with their BE ARP bolts (or new OE bolts)  it'll give you the perfect clearance for these engines.

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40 minutes ago, BimmerShaun said:

BE= Big End= rod bearings👍

I believe 0-60Motorsports is referring to the company named 'BE Bearings'.

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For me the question is why does this occur on something of this caliber, not a good look 67000k

poor maintenance,

hard driving

abuse

wrong oil

 

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13 hours ago, allan said:

For me the question is why does this occur on something of this caliber, not a good look 67000k

poor maintenance,

hard driving

abuse

wrong oil

 

Factory fault, just like the e60 m5 and e46 m3. This wear is common on low km cars 

 

BMW actually revised the oil pump also and didnt change the part number. 

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4 hours ago, allan said:

For me the question is why does this occur on something of this caliber, not a good look 67000k

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Because BMW don't continue to sell mechanical excellence any more. It's all about toys and bling. Same as all the other Euro Manufacturers. Reliability and reasonable maintenance costs have flown out the widow with the designers and the number crunchers

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6 hours ago, exextatic said:

I believe 0-60Motorsports is referring to the company named 'BE Bearings'.

Oops. One look at the user name and I'd have known

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4 hours ago, *rUstY_nUts* said:

Because BMW don't continue to sell mechanical excellence any more. It's all about toys and bling. Same as all the other Euro Manufacturers. Reliability and reasonable maintenance costs have flown out the widow with the designers and the number crunchers

So you produce a sh*t product dress it as lamb and sell it for an exorbitant price. Then when the wheels fall off maintenance etc floods in the owner/s get pissed off sells it and doesn't buy another one. If that is all true how have they managed to stay in busy for so long? what is missing because most company's would have been done years ago especially in the competitive auto industry.  

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7 hours ago, HaNs said:

Factory fault, just the me e60 m5 and e46 m3. This wear is common on low km cars 

 

BMW actually revised the oil pump also and didnt change the part number. 

Incorrect. The S54 E46 M3 had a connecting rod bearing materials fault not a clearance fault like on the S85 and S65 Motors. The S85 and S65 motors, some have 150-200000 kms on them and are fine and some have 3000-5000km on them with engine failure. So replace your connecting rod bearings with the BE Bearings product ASAP for peace of mind and for proper clearance and oil flow. I've done a few cars here in Bahrain and most of them had abnormal wear for the low mileages they were at. Some info on BE Bearings taken from their website:

Background:

  • BMW M5 (2005-2010), BMW M3 (2008-2013) can suffer early bearing failure due to inadequate rod bearing clearance.
  • Insufficient clearance means insufficient oil flow, excessive bearing surface heat, and premature wear.
  • These symptoms can lead to early bearing failure and a very expensive engine rebuild.
  • Problem can be addressed during engine rebuild, but it's expensive.
  • Some people switched to thinner oils -- as a stopgap measure.
  • Other stopgap measures include anti-friction teflon coated factory bearings, WPC anti-friction treated factory bearings, and custom bearings with same clearance as stock.
  • "Coated" factory bearings decreased clearance.  This is not a good idea.
  • WPC treated bearings slightly increase clearance, but are a stopgap.
  • Custom bearings keeping factory clearance doesn't fix the problem, but allows you to track lead and copper in Blackstone oil analysis.
  • Newer factory bearings (2010.5 and later) are made from tin-aluminum, not lead-copper.  Tin-aluminum bearings are 4-times harder on the surface than lead-copper bearings.  This extra hardness shows signs of doing more damage to motors as there seems to be more bearing failures with 2010.5 and later vehicles.  Tin-aluminum bearings also don't show the same signs of premature wear in Blackstone oil analysis due to lack of lead and copper.
  • A better solution was needed.

Better Design

  • Designed to address and fix the rod bearing clearance issue.
  • Designed for use with factory 10W60 weight oils.
  • Increases oil flow.
  • Improves lubrication for "Start-Stop" vehicles over factory bearings.
  • Designed in consultation with leading industry experts from  NASCAR, Indy Car, and former BMW M-Division engine designer.
  • Designed and manufactured by Clevite, factory BMW bearing supplier.
  • Traditional lead-copper bearing design; less wear on crankshaft journals, traceable with Blackstone oil analysis.
  • Each bearing is measured and size-binned.  Allows for custom bearing selection when necessary.
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They keep buying a badge they had a love affair with many years ago. This will fade with time and their empty pockets will cause them to take the walk

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