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  1. Hi Paul, well I have just completed the chassis repair on my e46m3, with your post and countless hours spent googling options I finally got into it and the whole project went extremely well.

    Standard procedure was followed to strip and prep area for repair, I did opt to fully weld stiffening plates to all 4 areas in question, the initial crack was about 40 mm long on front RH mount, this being typical failure point but my car also had slight deformation of the folded sheet metal tub that the sub frame actually bolts to, it does show just how much torsional up load this area is subjected to.

    So with the areas prepped, new plates made I fully welded these in place taking care not to over heat the entire area. The repair was pretty straight forward and the result was very Profesional, zinc based chassis repair paint was used to seal and protect the exposed bare metal (two coats) then full under body seal was applied, with car all back together you would have to be an expert on this type of repair to spot it.

    Rear muffler was also cut open removing the packing material as you did, ummmm not a lot of difference to be honest...almost not worth the effort however looking at removing the cats now.

    Another mod was to machine up some poly board plastic spacers to stop side trust on front bushes ( these I also replaced along with all bushes ossiciated with the sub frame) these mounts are bolted up just In front of the rear wheel arch, huge improvement under heavy load gear changes, stops that little side ways kick and keeps car in straight line.

    Last thing was to apply the BMW structural foam as per TIS recommendations along with the extra areas that you also filled.

    Also replaced all brake pads to race spec, wow these make it stop.

    Thank you for all you help Paul it was very much appreciated.


  2. I have been in 2 minds as to whether I should post my experience with the dreaded E46 M3 chassis crack, on one hand it is negative for resale purposes while on the other it is potentially good information for fellow Bimmersporters and I reckon the repair is up to any scrutiny. I found the crack after viewing a Reddish Motorsport video, I had looked before (with the entire subframe out) but I did not look in all of the right places so I don’t know if is new or was existing.

    In my case the crack was located in the classic spot (i.e. left hand rear subframe mount at the floor crease). Why do our cars fail here? Don’t know but previously we could comfort ourselves that very few cars were affected but it seems to me that as time goes on (i.e. km’s) the instances increase exponentially. After stripping the vehicle underside and inspecting all of the subframe mounting points I found that there was only 1 crack and that it was fairly small (30mm long). Based on this I decided to weld the crack, fit reinforcing plates, inject BMW structural “foam” and repaint the underneath of the car.

    Bearing in mind that the size of the crack (small) + the internal and external reinforcing being applied I chose to epoxy the reinforcement plates on rather than weld them. I had the necessary gear/skills to weld and it would have been cheaper but I felt it would have been too “invasive” when all things were taken into account. I also decided to use the structural foam in the LHR and RHF cavities as these are the 2 places where the cracking normally begins. This is because the LHR subframe mount is subjected to tensile stress (from motor induced rotational torque (anti-clockwise look at the rear of the car) and axle induced rotational torque (anti-clockwise looking at the right hand rear wheel). The RHF subframe mount is subjected to compression stress (i.e. the opposite of the LHR). The other 2 mounts (and ultimately the whole floor panel) really only seem to fail once these 2 stressed mounts have failed.

    There are plenty of DIY’s out there so I haven’t gone into the full detail here, a few things to note though. Regarding the rear mount, since I had the subframe out I chose to blank off the rear cavity (using expanding foam) from the bottom of the car rather than inside the boot as per BMW’s T.I.S. Regarding the front mount, I spent a lot of time estimating the size of the cavity that the mounts are encased in and found that it is quite large. This prompted me to use expanding foam to keep the structural epoxy localised around the mounting point, this is not something I have seen done before. A lot of people use a hand actuated epoxy applicator gun but this is very hard work, instead I made up a mechanised unit as per the following photos.

    Regarding costs the BMW structural foam was $263 per pack (2 x 420ml tube pairs) – I brought 2 packs. The reinforcement plate epoxy was $40/tube – I brought 4 but could have got away with 2.

    If anyone is interested I have the gear I used for this job available (diff/axle carrier frame, reinforcement plate templates, reinforcement plate clamps and foam dispenser gun).

    1. Crack viewed through the RHR sway bar mount (exhaust removed)

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    2. Close up of the crack

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    3. Home-made reinforcement plates (2.0mm)

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    4. Underside stripped and mounting points cleaned up

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    5. LHR mount ok apart from crack to the left (you need to look out for separated spot welds as well as cracks)

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    6. LHF ok

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    7. RHF ok (circular shape around thread is not a crack, it is the boundary line between the body panel and the threaded insert)

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    8. RHR ok

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    9. Crack ends drilled

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    10. Crack welded (gas - 2 passes)

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    11. Plates coated with epoxy after scouring with 60 grit and cleaning with electrical contact cleaner

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    12. Reinforcing plates fitted and compressed into place with 2D clamping plates (rear), not something I have seen done but a must I reckon

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    13. Front reinforcing and clamping plates (all left in position for 1 week)

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    14. Car fully masked in preparation for underside painting

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    15. Underside primed after degrease, scuffing and prepsol cleaning

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    16. LHR mount after base and clear coat

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    17. RHR mount after colour

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    18. LHF mount after colour

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    19. RHF mount after colour

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    20. Fuel tank back in

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    21. Rear axle on its way back in (note blue painted support tool which made the process quick and easy)

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    22. Expanding foam being applied between rear mounts as per the T.I.S

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    23. Expanding foam being applied to RHS of front mount cavity (through OEM drilling) – LH done too (although I didn’t fill the LHS with structural foam I prepared all sides in case I want to do at a future date)

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    24. Expanding foam being applied to the centre of front mount cavity (through new drilling)

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    25. Expanding foam being applied to the “tunnel” that runs between the front and rear cavities (modified version of T.I.S method)

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    26. Holes plugged (plugs at 11:00 and 4:00 o’clock in photo)

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    27. 4 x BMW structural foam packs plus homemade applicator gun

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    28. Applicator being used to fill RHF subframe mount cavity

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    29. Applicator being used to fill LHR subframe mount cavity

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    Last photos show exhaust re-polished and rear box – 3rd and final piece of work in the “gutting” exercise - last remaining fibreglass packing removed from the inlet section (patch at 2:00 the only evidence) plus underfloor plastics repainted

    Sensational

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