E30_318i 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/ Best New Engine 2005: 1. BMW 5.0-litre V10 (M5, M6) 2. Ferrari 4.3-litre V8 (F430) 3. Toyota 3.3-litre hybrid (Lexus RX400h) Best Fuel Economy: 1. Toyota 1.5-litre hybrid (Prius) 2. Toyota 3.3-litre hybrid (Lexus RX400h) 3. Fiat-GM 1.3-litre diesel (Panda, Punto, Ypsilon, Tigra, Corsa) Best Performance Engine: 1. BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6) 2. Ferrari 4.3-litre V8 3. Mercedes-AMG 6-litre bi-turbo (SL 65 AMG, CL 65 AMG) Sub 1-litre: 1. Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight) 2. Smart Brabus (Roadster) 3. Toyota 1-litre (Yaris/Vitz) 1-litre to 1.4-litre: 1. Fiat-GM 1.3 diesel (Panda, Punto, Ypsilon, Tigra, Corsa) 2. Honda 1.3-litre IMA hybrid (Civic) 3. Peugeot-Citroen/Ford 1.4-litre diesel (C2, C3, Fiesta, 1007) 1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: 1. Toyota 1.5 hybrid (Prius) 2. Toyota 1.8-litre VVLT-i (Celica, Corolla, Lotus Elise) 3. Peugeot-Citroen/Ford 1.6-litre diesel (C-MAX, C4, C5, Mazda3, 206, 307, 407) 1.8-litre to 2-litre: 1. Volkswagen 2-litre FSI Turbo (Audi A3, A4, Golf GTI) 2. Honda 2-litre (S2000) 3. BMW diesel 2-litre (X3, 120d, 320d) 2-litre to 2.5-litre: 1. Honda 2.2-litre diesel (Accord, CR-V, FR-V) 2. BMW 2.5-litre (325, 525) 3. Ford 2.3-litre hybrid (Escape HEV) 2.5-litre to 3-litre: 1. BMW 3-litre twin-turbo diesel (535d) 2. Honda 3-litre hybrid (Accord) 3. BMW 3.0-litre straight-six (330, 530, 630, 730) 3-litre to 4-litre: 1. BMW 3.2-litre (M3) 2. Porsche 3.8-litre (911) 3. Toyota 3.3-litre hybrid (RX400h) Above 4-litre: 1. BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6) 2. Ferrari 4.3 V8 (F430) 3. Volkswagen 5.0-litre V10 diesel (Touareg, Phaeton) Overall International Engine of the Year 2005: 1: BMW 5-litre V10 2: BMW 3-litre twin-turbo diesel 3: Toyota 1.5-litre hybrid :mosh: M3 S54 still goin strong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surge 1 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 Isn't that Prius engine less effecient than a low cc diesel engine? Nice to see a good amount of places held by BMW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMW POWER 2 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 (edited) Thats wicked, BMW totally owns. Also, take into consideration that: a) BMW Dont make a sub 1 litre b ) BMW Dont make a 1 - 1.4 litre c) They won 6 out of 8 that they where entered in. Also taking 2 spots in the 2.5 - 3.0 litre, 2nd in 2 - 2.5 litre and 3rd in the 1.8 -2.0 litre. d)They're in the top 3 best ion the world for all of those categories, apart from economy. AND overall they have taken out the top 2 spots. Big shout out to Munich, Well Done. :bowdown: Call me mental for that explanation, but that is excellence in its finest form. Edited June 5, 2005 by BMW POWER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petone 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 Interesting to see that the vast majority of the engines are NA, and most of the turbos are diesel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadowninja 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 Just confirms what we already knew. I wonder whether those are the new 3.0 & 2.5L from the E90, or whether they are still the old ones. Surprised to see the E46 M3 3.2L is still coming out on tops. Been out there 5 years & still blowing 'em away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spargo Report post Posted June 5, 2005 "When something is worth doing, it is worth doing fanatically" E30 M3 quote, but apply it to those stats :mosh: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant 4 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 Just confirms what we already knew. I wonder whether those are the new 3.0 & 2.5L from the E90, or whether they are still the old ones. Surprised to see the E46 M3 3.2L is still coming out on tops. Been out there 5 years & still blowing 'em away. Especially with all of the problems that the S54 seems to have with cooking big end bearings when driven hard.Cheers Grant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petone 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 I thought they were famous for throwing conrods out the block, or is that happening becuase of the cooked big end bearings? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant 4 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 I thought they were famous for throwing conrods out the block, or is that happening becuase of the cooked big end bearings? Yup, when the bearings go, the vibrations cause the conrod bolts to come loose, and then the rods get thrown through the block.It is all because the tolerances are too tight, and when the oil gets too hot it can no longer keep the bearings cool enough (it isn't a lubrication issue, it is a heat one). ....or so I have been told. Cheers Grant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spargo Report post Posted June 5, 2005 Or more specifically, Its an engines built in November 2001 problem. Fix was rectified, there is a bearing retrofit that fixes it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant 4 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 (edited) Or more specifically, Its an engines built in November 2001 problem. Fix was rectified, there is a bearing retrofit that fixes it. No it wasn't , it was a potential problem with all S54's built between February 2001 and mid 2003.However, it seemed that this was a mjor problem in cars built in November 2001, with a very high failure rate at around 6,000 miles. However, BMW have doubled the warrany and will fix any cooked angines free of charge for 6 years 100,000 miles that suffers this problem. They have since rectified the problem though.....but I guess time will tell and we will know for sure when the newer M3's start getting to around 80,000kms on the clock. They have a similar problem with the E39 M5 engine (that many of us have witnessed first hand). Cheers Grant Edited June 5, 2005 by Grant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadowninja 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 However, BMW have doubled the warrany and will fix any cooked angines free of charge for 6 years 100,000 miles that suffers this problem. Here's a question for you... if you buy a near-new car by private sale, do you inherit the balance of the new car warranty? Or does that effectively expire as soon as the car is sold? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andrew Report post Posted June 6, 2005 Here's a question for you... if you buy a near-new car by private sale, do you inherit the balance of the new car warranty? Or does that effectively expire as soon as the car is sold? nope - You lose the warranty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites