Mike 1 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 factory ECU can't recognise a positive manifold pressure so you either need a MAP (manifold absolute pressure) based ECU or something like a RRFPR (rising rate fuel pressure regulator) that will increase fuel pressure to compensate for extra oxygen going in. Too be honest sounds like you need to read up a whole lot more (maximum boost is a good book to get started) or increase your budget a lot and pay someone to do it. Have a google for Turbo Charging Dynamics as they sell complete kits that are tuned Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tibbs.james 1 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 +1 on the maximum boost It will tell you most things you need to know + more, If you are serious about turbo charging your car then understanding whats actually going on is very vitalLots of theory & lots of practical application for adding a turbo to your non turbo engine. Best book i ever read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topcat 11 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 (edited) I think this would be the cheapest option to be honest, its a solid build thats making good power (real impressed by the way topcat! looks incredible!) Cheers mate, I like the look of it too.shame the rest of the car isnt/wasnt all it cracked out to be. anyways,onwards and upwards.new project's up and running. Chris I've got an engine,new rings,low compressoin pistons,turbo,manifolds,450cc injectors,new water pump,MLS head gasket, worked head/warm cam, wategate. this,and a burned chip by/from Gavin and you've got a machine that will scare the s**t out of you,and anyone who rides with. dont worry about planting a m30 block into your e30.has been well documented on whats involved(not too much) will cost round the 7-8k.which is not bad if you check out other people posts on their turbo builds call me,can do easy payments. dont take short cuts mate,it will pay dividens cheers marty 021 438 735 more options for you to think about,cars on the blocks this weekend so do hurry if you want to test it out Edited April 17, 2008 by topcat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisvlok 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 Cheers mate, I like the look of it too.shame the rest of the car isnt/wasnt all it cracked out to be. anyways,onwards and upwards.new project's up and running. Chris I've got an engine,new rings,low compressoin pistons,turbo,manifolds,450cc injectors,new water pump,MLS head gasket, worked head/warm cam, wategate. this,and a burned chip by/from Gavin and you've got a machine that will scare the s**t out of you,and anyone who rides with. dont worry about planting a m30 block into your e30.has been well documented on whats involved(not too much) will cost round the 7-8k.which is not bad if you check out other people posts on their turbo builds call me,can do easy payments. dont take short cuts mate,it will pay dividens cheers marty 021 438 735 more options for you to think about,cars on the blocks this weekend so do hurry if you want to test it out hi marty, thanks for the offer. but i can't afford that much money at the moment. wish i could though as your engine sounds amazing. but will have to keep dreaming at this stage haha thanks anyway Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisvlok 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 hi all, i found this today when i was looking at piggyback units and ecu's just wondering if anyone knows whether or not this will work for me? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...RTQ:MOTORS:1123 thanks Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisvlok 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 just found this now, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-FIC-Fue...1QQcmdZViewItem does anyone know if you can get a automotive electrition to wire this into your car, or does it have to fit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 A piggy back is a great idea and could be installed and tuned for under two grand. I ran a UNI-CHIP on my last beast and it went great…after a few months on the Dyno and various injectors and fuel system experiments. Turbo/Supercharging and engine is never going to be cheap and never ultimately reliable. That kit does look very nice though..If you can find out what it would be worth to send over or even find out if it would fit please let us know..very tempting . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisvlok 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 yes, no i think it will fit, the flange on the turbo will sit closer to the front so it wont be in the way of the sterring colum. other than that i will just do the rest my self. i think ive got my piggyback system sussd out. someone earlier on said to go for a "map-ecu" (a brand by the way) but they have two models available. ones alot cheaper than the other and i was wondering if it would do the job. please tell me if this is so asap. http://www.mapecu.com/map2.html http://www.mapecu.com/map1.html thanks Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foohey 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 may be easier to get a RB25DET put in, cheaper? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr E34 11 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 (edited) yes, no i think it will fit, the flange on the turbo will sit closer to the front so it wont be in the way of the sterring colum. other than that i will just do the rest my self. i think ive got my piggyback system sussd out. someone earlier on said to go for a "map-ecu" (a brand by the way) but they have two models available. ones alot cheaper than the other and i was wondering if it would do the job. please tell me if this is so asap. http://www.mapecu.com/map2.html http://www.mapecu.com/map1.html thanks Chris Hey dude, i said go for Mapecu 2. This gives advance & retard control of your timing as well as the fuel control + you can run additional injectors plus a host of other stuff.Read up on it.I'm running Map2 on my stock M30 engine, if you look overseas everyone does custom fuel/timing mapping now. Dump the crap AFM and go MAP. You have to make decisions on your project that are sound, go for the best your budget can afford.You need accurate info, my mapping is in the gallery. Edited April 17, 2008 by mr E34 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisvlok 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 Hey dude, i said go for Mapecu 2. This gives advance & retard control of your timing as well as the fuel control + you can run additional injectors plus a host of other stuff.Read up on it. I'm running Map2 on my stock M30 engine, if you look overseas everyone does custom fuel/timing mapping now. Dump the crap AFM and go MAP. ok, thanks. but just incase i run into moeny probs along the way, the mapecu 1 will work? thanks Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr E34 11 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 ok, thanks. but just incase i run into moeny probs along the way, the mapecu 1 will work? thanks Chris Chris, you need FULL control of timing.You cannot compromise ignition timing on forced induction. Reliable power costs money, if in doubt save more money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr E34 11 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 just found this now, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-FIC-Fue...1QQcmdZViewItem does anyone know if you can get a automotive electrition to wire this into your car, or does it have to fit? If you have a quick read it allows timing retardation but not advance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topcat 11 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 (edited) ok, thanks. but just incase i run into moeny probs along the way, the mapecu 1 will work? thanks Chris get a second job or sell some stuff,dont go halves in something like this,it'll only sit in the back of the garage waiting for you to save more $$ up. Or wait for deals on TM for ecu's,wategates,turbos......other peoples tears Dont end up on TM with the catchie phrase '90% finished" cause it took too long lots of tears Edited April 17, 2008 by topcat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisvlok 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 get a second job or sell some stuff,dont go halves in something like this,it'll only sit in the back of the garage waiting for you to save more $$ up. Or wait for deals on TM for ecu's,wategates,turbos......other peoples tears Dont end up on TM with the catchie phrase '90% finished" cause it took too long lots of tears haha thanks topcat, i dont plan on messing around. hopefuly it will go as planned and it wont just be one of "those car's" haha thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 yes, no i think it will fit, the flange on the turbo will sit closer to the front so it wont be in the way of the sterring colum. other than that i will just do the rest my self. i think ive got my piggyback system sussd out. someone earlier on said to go for a "map-ecu" (a brand by the way) but they have two models available. ones alot cheaper than the other and i was wondering if it would do the job. please tell me if this is so asap. http://www.mapecu.com/map2.html http://www.mapecu.com/map1.html thanks Chris Blasphemy . Would most likely end up costing the same. I would prefer to keep things BMW if it were me, there would be a lot less fabrication to do, all auxiliaries would work properly and it would be BMW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisvlok 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2008 Blasphemy . Would most likely end up costing the same. I would prefer to keep things BMW if it were me, there would be a lot less fabrication to do, all auxiliaries would work properly and it would be BMW. i love fabricating!!! haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisvlok 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 hi all, just wondering waht you guys think of the ireland engineering 3.1 stroker kit. would it be better to get one of these instead of turboing my car?? http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFro...et=products.asp also, what would it take to put this in, and can you guys recomend anyone in christchurch that could do it for cheap? thanks Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeddy 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 hi all, just wondering waht you guys think of the ireland engineering 3.1 stroker kit. would it be better to get one of these instead of turboing my car?? http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFro...et=products.asp also, what would it take to put this in, and can you guys recomend anyone in christchurch that could do it for cheap? thanks Chris Andrew on here i think is doing this. Would still need to do something about the ecu tho me thinks.If 3k's your limit and you cant do it yourself i think you'd be pushed to do a good job of this Read this Sure he's done lots of other mods but same principal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr E34 11 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 Top gear from those guys, as said above Andrew is building one. Lots of dollars for N/A, work hard for each HP, turbo will give more PWR/TRQ & it doesn't care above 2 valve heads. Why not just buy an M30 big block 3.5ltr and drop that in?? http://www.e30.de/335i/00.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisvlok 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 just read a whole lot on the prices involves haha, so yea, think im guna stick to the turbo, i just wish my 325 was a 2 door. it driving me crazy atm. how easy would it be to put my engine in a 2 door e30? or i a 2 door 325 thats auto ? just don't wana waste money doing it to a four door and then deciding at the end that it would look better in a 2 door which i know will probably happen thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
318isCoupe 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 just read a whole lot on the prices involves haha, so yea, think im guna stick to the turbo, i just wish my 325 was a 2 door. it driving me crazy atm. how easy would it be to put my engine in a 2 door e30? or i a 2 door 325 thats auto ? just don't wana waste money doing it to a four door and then deciding at the end that it would look better in a 2 door which i know will probably happen thanks Drive your 4 door till you've saved up enough money to do it properly, sell it and buy a 2 door 325 manual and do a quality turbo build. You'll be much happier and there'll be less tears and swearing involved than cutting corners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisvlok 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 does anyone know of a manual 325 coupe that someone might be keen on swapping for or selling????? haha i know im dreaming. man it sucks how there so hard to find these days Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lbirgel 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 buy mine ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisvlok 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2008 haha i'd love to, except im down in chch. would you by any chance swap???? tm link-need to take some proper photos haha http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=150787721 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites