elmarco 56 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 I know he has come back from the dead before, but how the hell does Winston expect to fear after this latest development (front page of today's Herald or link)? Surely he would have investigated the claims before telling the Herald to put up or shut up? If he did investigate the Owen Glenn donation and lied about it, who the hell is going to trust him on anything now? And if he didn't investigate at all it is irresponsible, and I wouldn't want him running my government. Sure there is the arguement about plausible deniability, but if that's the case, look where it has left him now. How can you tell a politician is lying? Their lips are moving.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 I know he has come back from the dead before, but how the hell does Winston expect to fear after this latest development (front page of today's Herald or link)? Surely he would have investigated the claims before telling the Herald to put up or shut up? If he did investigate the Owen Glenn donation and lied about it, who the hell is going to trust him on anything now? And if he didn't investigate at all it is irresponsible, and I wouldn't want him running my government. Sure there is the arguement about plausible deniability, but if that's the case, look where it has left him now. How can you tell a politician is lying? Their lips are moving.... fare not fearWinston is a past master at this storm in a teacup thing.I think he will be the MP for Tauraunga again..... no contest this time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briancol 3 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 (edited) But how long are the voters going to put up with his constant deceiving? Edited July 19, 2008 by briancol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ducatiss 1 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 Way back in the 90's a friend of mine who works in the political arena, told me (after I commented to her that it appeared Winston was on the way out), not to ever underestimate Winston. He is one of the few politicians that are able to successfully manipulate both the media and public opinion to his own ends. He is a master of the "end game" and while I do not like his style, I don't think we have seen the last of him yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmarco 56 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 I dunno. I don't pay a lot of attention to politics and the dirty tactics, and I know Winston has made an entire career out of this stuff. Still makes me wonder if he might have bitten off more than he can chew and if the people of Tauranga will trust him enough again. Course, we could be looking at this all wrong. He is a master of the trade and might be manipulating the media for his own benefit. Lts face it, he is on shaky ground if he relies on the party vote to get him back in, and pretty much any publicity is good publicity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cale 36 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 I don't like the man, more so now I am sure he is a liar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmarco 56 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 Way back in the 90's a friend of mine who works in the political arena, told me (after I commented to her that it appeared Winston was on the way out), not to ever underestimate Winston. He is one of the few politicians that are able to successfully manipulate both the media and public opinion to his own ends. He is a master of the "end game" and while I do not like his style, I don't think we have seen the last of him yet. Yes, well put. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allan 295 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 Isn't that a politician through and through give you the earth on day and steal it right back the next. What sort of a deal did he do to wrangle the foreign affairs minister job from aunty Helen?. Allan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmarco 56 Report post Posted July 25, 2008 Watch him squirm now!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PBOY23 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2008 go winston!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tire 10 Report post Posted July 25, 2008 My grandparents love him enough said Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Huttey 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2008 He is either dead or this is all orchestrated and there will be a Bob Jones turn around on this and Winston comes out of it peachy clean. Politics are not always obvious Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cale 36 Report post Posted July 25, 2008 My grandparents love him It seems every older person does, thats all you see attending his speeches etc. They just sit there staring lovingly into his eyes then hope to shake his hand afterward. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PBOY23 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2008 i rekons hes cool cause if someone questions him its a nice simple get f**ked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1rotty 40 Report post Posted July 25, 2008 Did we all enjoy a pissed Bob Jones on Close Up tonight? Ya gotta love the man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creaver 55 Report post Posted July 25, 2008 He is a very intelligent man. I'd hate to get into an argument with him, don't think i'd stand a chance at winning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
