deeveus 81 Report post Posted August 10, 2008 We've bought a E46 BMW M3, however we havn't got round to payment yet, so was just wondering if there was anything to look for on the car. Its an 2003 done 70km, SMG transmission, , work history involves a new alternator, front discs, pads e.t.c. Can anyone in the know give me a heads up of what to look for with the vehicle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackt 1 Report post Posted August 10, 2008 I have no idea what to watch out for - maybe speed cameras Congrats on the purchase. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmw.maniac 1 Report post Posted August 10, 2008 Make sure the SMG is working perfectly. And get it throughly checked by a dealer for complete peace of mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cale 36 Report post Posted August 10, 2008 Yep watch the SMG. I heard there was a recall a few years ago with the S54 Motor concerning a rod bearing or smething? Could be a question. What colour is it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deeveus 81 Report post Posted August 10, 2008 Haha! It has factory Jammers, so that will be a helping hand. It has the same power as my old CLK-55 (bit less torque) but I can imagine it handling alot better than the CLK. Colour is AVUS BLUE which I'm told is very very rare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conrod 1 Report post Posted August 10, 2008 There was a recall on all E46 M3's that involved replacing big end and main bearings, also involved changing to a special oil. It was only on engines manufactured during a certain period, and I can't remember which period! Might have been earlier than 2003. A dealer will be able to tell you, or else Google it, i am sure you will find the "trouble" period, and if yours falls within that timeframe make sure it has had the remedial work carried out. This was usually done under warranty, and must have cost BMW a lot of $$$$$!!! As suggested, pay a dealer to do a pre purchase inspection, they should uncover any nasties lurking within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bimmer boy 21 Report post Posted August 10, 2008 I personally wouldnt touch a E46 M3 without a service plan, brake discs are like 4k per corner or soemthing similar but luckily its been done on your one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1043 Report post Posted August 10, 2008 I personally wouldnt touch a E46 M3 without a service plan, brake discs are like 4k per corner or soemthing similar but luckily its been done on your one ???? e46 330/m3 brake disks / pad costs around 1000 for the front and 1200 for the rear. Even cheaper if you get them from the states. Theyre not carbon ceramic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted August 10, 2008 F**k me thats expensive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1043 Report post Posted August 10, 2008 There was a recall on all E46 M3's that involved replacing big end and main bearings, also involved changing to a special oil. It was only on engines manufactured during a certain period, and I can't remember which period! Might have been earlier than 2003. A dealer will be able to tell you, or else Google it, i am sure you will find the "trouble" period, and if yours falls within that timeframe make sure it has had the remedial work carried out. This was usually done under warranty, and must have cost BMW a lot of $$$$$!!! As suggested, pay a dealer to do a pre purchase inspection, they should uncover any nasties lurking within. Some info from bimmerfest (US Forum) As communicated to you in December 2002, BMW was in the process of conducting an investigation concerning cases of damage to the connecting rod bearings leading to engine failure on S54 engines in E46 M3 and M roadster/coupe cars. We have completed our investigation and identified that E46 M3 cars with S54 engines produced from October 2001 - February 2002 require engine modifications to be performed as part of a service action. This action will consist of replacing the engine oil pump and connecting rod bearings. At the same time the engine control module will be reprogrammed to improve cold start characteristics, etc. Service Information B11 02 03 has been issued containing all information required to perform this action. This action is not necessary for M roadster/coupe cars with S54 engines, or E46 M3 vehicles which had their engine replaced. Notification letters to all customers will be mailed shortly. To maintain customer confidence the 6-year or 100,000 miles extended engine warranty will continue for all M3 coupe/convertible and M roadster/coupe with S54 engines including entire MY 2003. We have prepared a list of Questions and Answers, which should address most inquiries our customer may have. Please provide and discuss this information with your staff. Thank you for your cooperation. BMW of North America, LLC BMW Service Action on M3 S54 Engines March 2003 March 28, 2003 (Q1) Why is BMW announcing a service action on M3 S54 engines? (A1) We have determined that certain BMW M3's S54 engines could experience premature engine damage due to lack of lubrication to the connecting rod bearings. (Q2) How many cars are affected by the service action? (A2) Approximately 4,000 M3's are affected in the US (Worldwide 8,500). (Q3) Which models might the problem occur? (A3) BMW M3 coupe/convertible equipped with S54 engines and produced between October 2001 and February 2002. (Q4) How many M3's with S54 engines in total were sold in the US? (A4) Approximately 19,000 M3's with S54 engines have been sold in the US to date. (Q5) When and how did BMW become aware of the problem? (A5) Our customers and authorized centers notified BMW of isolated cases of engine damage starting mid year 2002. (Q6) What seems to be the root cause of the problem? (A6) BMW has identified the problem as a combination of contamination of the engine lubricating system during assembly and unfavorable tolerances in the oil pump in M3 S54 engines produced from October 2001 through February 2002. (Q7) How does the driver become aware of the problem? (A7) The engine will start knocking or making a loud rattling noise. At that point, we advise that you pull over to a safe location, turn the ignition off and call BMW Roadside Assistance at (800) 332-4BMW. Have your car towed to the nearest authorized BMW center. (Q8) Is this a safety issue? (A8) No. The vehicle can still be operated with no immediate need to have the repairs carried out. The driver would become aware of the problem if the engine started knocking or making a loud rattling noise. At that point, we advise the customer to pull over to a safe location, turn the ignition off and call BMW Roadside Assistance at (800) 332-4BMW to have the car towed to the nearest authorized BMW center. (Q9) What is the solution to the problem? (A9) The affected cars will require replacement of the engine oil pump and as a precautionary measure, replacement of the connecting rod bearings. In addition, the DME (engine control module) will be programmed with the latest software, which includes improved cold start characteristics. (Q10) Why were engine failures seen in cars outside the affected production range? What is the reason for that? (A10) Even under a highly sophisticated and top quality production process there can always be a small amount of defects no matter how careful and considerate one is. Our research cannot tie these isolated engine failures to the defined problem in the affected production range. Therefore, we have a very generous warranty and always stand behind our products. (Q11) How many cars have experienced this engine damage? (A11) To date, only a small percentage of cars have experienced engine damage. (Q12) How many accidents or injuries are attributed to the problem? (A12) To the best of our knowledge, none. (Q13) Will BMW initiate a recall? (A13) No, a service action. (Q14) Have the customers been informed? (A14) Customers were notified in December 2002 of the situation and BMW provided them with an extended warranty for all internal mechanical engine components lubricated by engine oil. These customers will receive a letter from BMW of North America, LLC, informing them of the analysis results. Customers with vehicles built in the identified production range are asked to contact their authorized BMW center to set up an appointment for the service action at their earliest convenience. (Q15) How long will the repair take? (A15) The repair will take approximately one days work, however, the actual time will vary depending on center scheduling. (Q16) Are there any costs for the customer? (A16) No. (Q17) Can customers continue to drive their cars? (A17) Yes. However, in the unlikely event that your engine is knocking or making a rattling noise please pull over to a safe location, turn the ignition off and call BMW Roadside Assistance at (800) 332-4BMW. (Q18) Does BMW expect to tarnish their image? (A18) No, BMW is being responsible in handling a product quality issue in the most customer-oriented and effective manner. (Q19) Is the replacement oil pump used in the service action the same as the oil pump used in current production? (A19) Yes. As part of an on-going production change, the oil pump used in the service action is also being used in current production as of January 2003. (Q20) My car was not defined as being part of the service action. Can I have the service action performed anyway? (A20) If you were not notified of your car being part of the service action there is no need for your car to undergo the action. Your vehicle is not within the identified production range. (Q21) Why is BMW offering an extended warranty? (A21) We want to prove to our customers that we understand their concern, stand behind our product and protect their investment. (Q22) Do all BMW's equipped with S54 engines come with the 6 years/100,000 miles engine warranty extension? (A22) Yes, to show our customers our commitment, we provided this warranty to all 2001, 2002 and 2003 model year BMW's with S54 engines. (Q23) Why did it take so long for BMW to find a solution? (A23) The issue required an intensive analysis to determine the root cause of the problem. We wanted to be sure that the correct countermeasures were implemented. (Q24) Why is the M roadster/coupe not affected by this service action? (A24) Our root cause analysis revealed that these cars do not call for a service action as the number of reported incidents are very low on these models; and there is a differentiation in the production process from the M3. BMW remains committed to maintaining our customers confidence and has also extended the engine warranty for the M roadster/coupe with S54 engines model year 2001/2002. (Q25) What is the estimated cost of this service action to BMW? (A25) On a worldwide basis approximately 6 million US dollars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3_Power 636 Report post Posted August 11, 2008 (edited) Wow so much mis-information !! First congratulations on the purchase. rod bearing issue only affected all those vehicles produced before June 2003 (not including June production). Some really early models (pre 2001 production) weren't affected either. The worst affected were those made in 2002, with a whole bunch of the very worst (blown engine cars) being made in August, september and October 2002. Personally I'd just avoid all cars made in 2002 (a disporportionate representation of spun rod bearings compared to all other years) the rod bearing was a third party tooling issue and tolerance issue which was corrected three times by BMW AG before a solution was found. All NZ new models were recalled and replaced with the third issue of rod bearings. All 2002 production vehicles also needed an updated oil pump. THERE WAS NO REPLACEMENT OIL - the Engine oil stayed the same (there were two types that was recommended for the S54, hence the confusion) Contrary to popular internet beliefs the E46 M3 is actually a very reliable car with very little issues. SMGII is also VERY reliable (even under race conditions - bar some heating issues which can be corrected). Things to watch out for on the E46 M3: 1. Trailing arm bushings, these would be shot by now if not replaced at 70,000km 2. Rear shock mount - same as above 3. Rear diff oil - there was an additive release to cure the groaning noise when turning (BMW TIS available) 4. get the SMG computer updated by the dealer (there's been about 3 software updates to date) Get the clutch take up point reinitialised, you'll feel sh*t loads of difference and it'll stop the clutch from being worn prematurely (regular resets is recommended given that the BMW clutch pack made by LuK is a self adjusting unit) You'll be surprised how GOOD the SMG is at modulating the clutch causing little to no wear at all (even at those ks). 5. Hod switch - you get a blinking SMG gear indicator if you don't slam the hood shut - the switch is a common component to fail. 6. front lower control arm bushing - at those ks, it'd probably need changing. 7. Power steering pump - these fail if the power steering pump cap comes loose - which have been known to happen to quite a few cars. Can lead to the pump blowing. 8. coil packs have been known to fail also. 9. Clean your MAF sensor 10. Rear springs have been known to break, although I've yet to see a case in NZ (generally overseas and snow country) 11. SMG pump have been known to stop working (usually just the solenoid, not the pump that's failed) That's about all the major stuff really. oh and there's no extended warranty offered by BMW NZ for the replacement rod bearings - that only happened in the US, no where else. If you want to learn more about these cars I am more than happy to impart knowledge - email me - [email protected] Edited August 11, 2008 by M3_Power Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmarco 56 Report post Posted August 11, 2008 I have no idea what to watch out for - maybe speed cameras Congrats on the purchase. +1 They really are a special car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1043 Report post Posted August 11, 2008 hmm wouldnt really suggest f**king around with the MAF unless you really know what doing. They are easly damage and are one of the rediculously priced items on an e46 for what they are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites