cainchapman 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 BMW Engines Contributed by: Unknown Horsepower quotes may not always reflect US Rating, If there are two HP numbers, lower HP number generally denotes US rating M10 Straight 4 cylinder SOHC 8V. 1966-1987. 83kg 180lbs Used in 1502, 1600-2, E21 316/318i/320-4, E30 316, 2002tii and 2002 turbo 1.5 (75bhp), 1.6 (85bhp), 1.8 (90-98bhp), 2.0 (100bhp), 2.0i (125bhp), 2.0tii (130bhp), 2.0turbo (170bhp) M20 Straight 6 cylinder SOHC 12V. Baby Six. 1977-1992. 117kg 258lbs Used in E21 320, E21 320i/6, E28, E30, E34, E21/30 323i, E30 325e and E28 528e 2.0i (129bhp), 2.3i (143bhp), 2.5i (170bhp), 2.7e (125bhp) M30 Straight 6 cylinder SOHC 12V. Big Six. 1973-1993. 143kg 315lbs Used in E12 525/528, E28 525i, E23 725i, 2800CS, E28 528i, E23 728i, 3.0CS/i/L, 3.0Si, E12 530i, E23 730i, 3.3Li, 633, 732i, 733i, 535i, 635i, 735i, E12 M535 2.5i (150bhp), 2.8i (184bhp), 3.0 (185-208bhp), 3.3 (200-206bhp), 3.5 (218bhp) M102 Straight 6 cylinder SOHC 12V Turbo. Big Six Turbo. 1984-1986. 145kg 320lbs. Used only in the E23 745i 3.2L or 3.4L Turbo (252bhp) M40 Straight 4 cylinder SOHC 8V. Replaced the M10. 1987-1993. 81kg 178lbs Used in post 87 E30 316i/318i, E34 518i, Pre 93 E36 316i 1.6 (102bhp), 1.8 (122bhp) M42 Straight 4 cylinder DOHC 16V. 1989-1996. 100kg 220lbs Used in E30 and E36 318is, Z3 1.8 (138-142bhp) M43 Straight 4 SOHC 8V. 1993-1998. 83kg 183lbs Used in post-93 E36 316i/318i, E34/39 518i. 1.6 (102bhp), 1.8 (115bhp) M43TU Straight 4 SOHC 8V. 1998 on. 83kg 183lbs Used in E46 318i 1.9 (118bhp) M44 Straight 4 DOHC 16V. 1996 on. 102kg 225lbs Used in E36 318iS, Z3 1.9 (142-150bhp) M50/M50TU Straight 6 DOHC 24V/Straight 6 DOHC 24V with Single VANOS. 1989-1998. 136kg 299lbs Used in E36 320i/325i, E34/39 520i/525i, Variation of this was used in the Early US E36 M3 2.0 (150bhp), 2.5 (192bhp), 3.0 (240bhp) Sometimes referred to as S50US. Engine shares more common parts with M50 than Euro S50, but is a motorsport engine. M52/M52TU Straight 6 DOHC 24V with Single VANOS/Straight 6 DOHC 24V with Double VANOS. 1996-1999. Iron Block in US, Alloy Block in Europe . 118kg 260lbs (alloy) 140kg 308lbs Used in E39 520i/523i/528i, E36 323i/328i, E38 728i, Variation of this was used in late US E36 M3. 2.0 (150bhp), 2.5 (170bhp), 2.8 (193bhp), 3.2 (240bhp) Sometimes referred to as S52US. Engine shares more common parts with M52 than Euro S52, but is a motorsport engine. M54 Straight 6 DOHC 24V with Dual VANOS. 2000-present. 126kg 277lbs Used in late model Z3, all E39 and E46 six cylinder models 2.0 (150bhp), 2.2 (170bhp), 2.5 (184-192bhp), 2.8 (193bhp), 3.0 (231bhp) M56 Straight 6 DOHC 24V Dual VANOS with ULEV. 2002-present. 127kg 280lbs Used in some E39 and E46 six cylinder models 2.5 (184bhp) M60 V8 DOHC 32V. 1992-1996. 146kg 321lbs Engine blocks were made of Nikasil (Silicone Injected Nickel) which were prone to failure over time. Many have been replaced with the newer Alusil (Silicone injected Aluminum) engines/ Used in E34 530i, E32 730i, 740i, 840i 3.0 (218bhp), 4.0 (286bhp) M62/M62TU V8 DOHC 32V/V8 DOHC 32V Single VANOS. 1996-present. Alusil Engine block. Pre 98 engines were non-VANOS. 140kg 308lbs Used in E38 730i/740i, E39 540i, X5 and 840i 3.5 (235bhp), 4.4L (286bhp), 4.6 (340bhp) M70 V12 SOHC 24V. 1988-1994. 155kg 341lbs Used in E32 750il, 850i 5.0 (300bhp) M73 V12 SOHC 24V Single VANOS. 1995-2001. Pre 98 engines were non-VANOS. 150kg 330lbs 5.4L (326bhp) S14 Straight 4 DOHC 16V Solid Lifter Valvetrain and Individual Throttle Bodies. 1987-1991. 106kg 234lbs Used in the E30 M3 and Italian only E30 320is 2.0L (195bhp) 2.3L (192-200bhp), 2.5L (215-238bhp) Original S38 (Also known as M88 and M88/3) Straight 6 DOHC 24V Solid Lifter Valvetrain and Individual Throttle Bodies. 1979-1980, 1986-1990. 146kg 321lbs Used in M1, E28 M5, M6, SA E23 745i 3.5L (277-286bhp) Updated S38 Straight 6 DOHC 24V Solid Lifter Valvetrain and Individual Throttle Bodies. 1988-1996. 151kg 332lbs Used in E34 M5 3.6 (315bhp), 3.8 (340bhp) S50 Straight 6 DOHC 24V Solid Lifter Valvetrain with Single VANOS and Individual Throttle Bodies. (Dual Vanos on 3.2Ls) 1992-2000. 152kg 333lbs Used in non-US E36 M3 3.0 (286bhp), 3.2L (321bhp) S54 Straight 6 DOHC 24V Solid Lifter Valvetrain with Dual VANOS and Individual Throttle Bodies. 2001-present. 148kg 326lbs Used in the E46 M3 and the last of the Z3 M-Coupe and M-Roadster. 3.2 (321-343bhp) S62 V8 DOHC 32V Solid Lifter Valvetrain with Dual VANOS and Individual Throttle Bodies. 1999-present. 158kg 348lbs Used in E39 M5 and Z8 4.9L (400bhp) S70 V12 SOHC 24V. 1995-1997. 165kg 363lbs Used in 850CSi 5.6L (380bhp) S70/2 Used in McLaren F1 (Was originally developed for M8) Type 6.1 liter, 48 valve V-12 with aluminum block and heads, 627 bhp Bore and stroke 3.38 x 3.41 in (86 x 87 mm) Weight 266Kg Displacement 370 cubic in, 6064 cc Compression ratio 10.5:1 Engine control system Bosch Motronic with port fuel injection Emissions controls 3-way catalytic converter feedback fuel-air-ratio control auxiliary air pump Valve gear Chain-driven double overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder, hydraulic lifters, variable intake timing Solid Lifter Valvetrain with Single VANOS and Individual Throttle Bodies Power (SAE net) 618 bhp @ 7400 rpm Torque (SAE net) 479 ft-lb @ 4000 rpm Redline 7500 rpm M21 straight 6 SOHC 12V Diesel. 1983-1991 126kg 278lbs Used in 324td, 524d/td 2.4 (112bhp), 2.4 Turbo (115bhp) M41 Straight 4 SOHC 8V Diesel. 1995-on. 108kg 238lbs Used in E36 318tdS 1.7 Turbo (90bhp) M51 Straight 6 SOHC 12V Diesel. 1995-on. 132kg 291lbs Used in E36 325td/S, E34 and E39 2.5 Turbo (115bhp), 2.5 Intercooled Turbo (143bhp) M47 Straight 4 DOHC 16V Diesel. 1998-on. 117kg 258lbs Used in E46 320d 2.0 Turbo (136bhp) M55 Straight 6 DOHC 24V Diesel. 2000-on. 132kg 291lbs Used in E46 and E39s. 2.5 Turbo (170bhp), 3.0 Turbo (183bhp) M67 V8 DOHC 32V Diesel. 1999-on. 192kg 423lbs Used in E38 740d 4.0 Turbo (245bhp) N44TU Straight 4 DOHC 16V Dual VANOS with Valvetronic Used in E46 318i 1.6 (115bhp), 1.8 (143bhp) N62 V8 DOHC 32V Dual VANOS with Valvetronic Used in E65 745i 4.4 (325bhp) N73 V12 DOHC 48V Dual VANOS with Valvetronic Used in E65 760i 6.0 (438bhp) W10 Straight 4 SOHC 16V Used in Mini One, Mini Cooper 1.6 (90-115bhp) W11 Straight 4 SOHC 16V with Eaton Supercharger Used in Mini Cooper S 1.6 Supercharged (163bhp) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 (edited) good info cain was helping a guy with his project car.He was wanting a rear whhel drive setup,and i suggested the engine from e30,s he asked me about m10,s and m40,s...intersting to note the m30 and m60 are only a few kilo,s different. Edited September 29, 2004 by kiwi535 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
318is 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 Nice info. Note here that the M44 is roughly the same HP, if not even, with the 2.0 six cylinder. Take into consideration the Power to weight ratios, they are not to shabby. I got one, and am fairly happy with it. Got a few motor mods I'm doing soon thou. So explains why they are faster to 100 that the six. Not bad for a "round town" car ( as advertised ) :thumb: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spargo Report post Posted September 29, 2004 The S70/2 was never intended for the M8, When Paul Roche was appoached by Gordon Murrary about a motor, that's what they built. It's completely designed to Mclaren specs (with regards to size) Oh, and it will fit under an E30 bonnet :mosh: :mosh: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andrew Report post Posted September 29, 2004 Nice info. Note here that the M44 is roughly the same HP, if not even, with the 2.0 six cylinder. Take into consideration the Power to weight ratios, they are not to shabby. I got one, and am fairly happy with it. Got a few motor mods I'm doing soon thou. So explains why they are faster to 100 that the six. Not bad for a "round town" car ( as advertised ) :thumb: cept the torque is a fair amount lessthe m30 gearbox is also bloody heavy which is the concern for e30 m30 swaps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 S14 Straight 4 DOHC 16V Solid Lifter Valvetrain and Individual Throttle Bodies. 1987-1991. 106kg 234lbs Used in the E30 M3 and Italian only E30 320is 2.0L (195bhp) 2.3L (192-200bhp), 2.5L (215-238bhp) Italian and Portugal 2.0L - 192hp 2.3L- 195 (US cat), 200hp, 215hp (Oct 86- May 89) 2.3L- 220hp (raised compression) (Sep 89- Dec 90) 2.5L- 238hp Specials 2.3L - 300hp Group A 2.5L - 330hp Sport Evo Group A Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*sic 1 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 some nice figures, some shockers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gus 5 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 M10 1.8 (90-98bhp) oh baby hold me back Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30_318i 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 M43 Straight 4 SOHC 8V. 1993-1998. 83kg 183lbs Used in post-93 E36 316i/318i, E34/39 518i. 1.6 (102bhp), 1.8 (115bhp) :gay: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmwsparkle 3 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 cool thread, gotta love the M102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cainchapman 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 Don't remind me about the S14 thanks. I was going to have a look at a 320iS (Italian) 1990 in Diamond Schwarz in Oxford UK in 3 weeks. Just been told this morning that it was sold. :banghead: Oh, well. I guess I'll find something fun to drive next. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petone 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 C'mon guys, you think I'd drive a car with less than 100 hp? M10B18 is 105hp :mosh: I'd also like to point out my car is faster to 100 than the auto 320i Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m325i 709 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 My bro has an e30 318i. With one person, to 100k they are ok. Definately good for a 1.8. Fully loaded up a hill, "fuhgettaboutit" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petone 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 Haha i was going over the rimutakas with 5 people in the car once, actually felt sorry for the car. It made it though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gus 5 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 drove a facelift 318 the other day...i much prefer to pre facelift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andrew Report post Posted September 30, 2004 C'mon guys, you think I'd drive a car with less than 100 hp? M10B18 is 105hp :mosh: I'd also like to point out my car is faster to 100 than the auto 320i no its not - they make like 40 - 45 kW at the wheels.. Yipee. Even a 320i ain't 100 hp at the wheels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petone 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 I'm going by the owners manual here, same for the 0 to 100 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andrew Report post Posted September 30, 2004 I'm going by the owners manual here, same for the 0 to 100 owners manuals lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*sic 1 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 owners manuals lie. so do most of the ownes when they find the real hp figures they are placing on the ground! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant 4 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 so do most of the ownes when they find the real hp figures they are placing on the ground! aint that the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andrew Report post Posted September 30, 2004 so do most of the ownes when they find the real hp figures they are placing on the ground! yeah.. know this.. 325i don't make more than 95 - 100 kW on the dyno at Gavin Bellars place. Has anyone else noticed his dyno gives low scores?Cain your car got a higher score at Torque Performance didn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cainchapman 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Yes, correct. David's car was 93kW off memory and mine was about 7kW lower than the 164kW I got from Torque Performance. However Dynos are not that accurate anyway unless you use one of International Dynomometers ones. Therefore, you need to find someone who will look after you and keep getting your car dyno'd at the same place so the records have some correlation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andrew Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Yes, correct. David's car was 93kW off memory and mine was about 7kW lower than the 164kW I got from Torque Performance. However Dynos are not that accurate anyway unless you use one of International Dynomometers ones. Therefore, you need to find someone who will look after you and keep getting your car dyno'd at the same place so the records have some correlation. I agree - dynos are not for comparing power - so many variables. Really for tuning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30-OLLIE 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2007 Haha i was going over the rimutakas with 5 people in the car once, actually felt sorry for the car. It made it though Hey talking about the rimutaka's from a thrash point of view - is anyone else disapointed that a lot of the good corners were taken out....... maybe it's just me Thanks for the info everyone........sooooo, next time a S70/2 turns up on Tardme, can some one give me a yell - haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted August 9, 2007 Wholly hell missed this. 112HP,hot dayam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites