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Hi all,

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I cant find an answer in the forums. I have a 2015 F30 import from Japan. The Nav has been converted to NZ, but the TV mode still is Japanese. Does anyone know if there is an easy way to covert the TV for NZ? Im assuming it needs to be switched from NTSC to PAL and did read apparently its a simple change in settings, but if that is the case, I cant find out how to do it.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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BMW were & to my knowledge still do, run the TV on Digital MPEG2 format where NZ is running on MPEG4 - so different formats.

NTSC / PAL is for the reverse camera & is programmable (on the earlier cars anyway) but nothing to do with TV function.

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MPEG3   & MPEG4  are just video  compression / decompression engines (codecs), not televsion standards  - that is they just ompress and decompress the signal for the "transport" phase. 

NZ is PAL BG regardles of whether it is analaoge or digital  - satellite or terrestrial  so to the TV standard has to be set correctly first - because what is being transported is PAL. 

MPEG 2 is about 25  years old and well superceeeded so I would doubt that a 2015 vehicle would be using it. most modern codecs are multi mode , i.e they will do MPEG 1/2/4 and H260 / 264 or 320

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Just going back a few steps to the original question, has your car definately got the TV option fitted? It's quite a rare option, even rarer on an F30. Second question for a bonus point, does your car have the analogue TV option fitted, or the digital TV option fitted?

If you don't know how to check, then post up the last 7 digits of the VIN and I can check out the build details for you.

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if it has analogue TV fitted it wont work, because we have no analogue broadcast, it was turned off in 2013 

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Hence the reason for the question.

Anyone heard the joke about the lost woman and the guy in the balloon..? Keeps coming to mind for some strange reason.

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Oops my bad wasn't meaning MPEG. 🙄

Cant recall the format offhand but in discussion with Jochen at the time, we run a different digital system to that of Europe - on which BMW use in their cars.

There was a digital video module available for the E39 - a plug & play for the analogue unit as in our car.  They were not suitable for NZ 

Unless BMW have changed then there will still be the same issue.

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On 7/2/2018 at 1:05 PM, E30 325i Rag-Top said:

Just going back a few steps to the original question, has your car definately got the TV option fitted? It's quite a rare option, even rarer on an F30. Second question for a bonus point, does your car have the analogue TV option fitted, or the digital TV option fitted?

If you don't know how to check, then post up the last 7 digits of the VIN and I can check out the build details for you.

Yeah pretty sure it does as when I go into media, TV is an option and it scans for stations etc and if I go to "TV region" a whole lot of Japanese provinces come up to choose from. 

Have no idea about digital or analogue, but the VIN is NS62941

Cheers

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On 7/2/2018 at 11:16 PM, hotwire said:

 

Oops my bad wasn't meaning MPEG. 🙄

 

Nope, we use the European DVB-S & T platforms however we may have done something stupid with the channel division and mulitplexing because we used some english idiot for that part - I stepped out of the industry at that point because in my day it was about quality - and you can see where that has gone - right down the shitter. 

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Splitting hairs somewhat with my description.

Net result is - a Digital video module from 38/39/46/53 & a few others of that vintage will work in UK/Europe but NOT in NZ

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It's not about splitting hairs or points scoring , it's about sharing knowledge.  

So provideing the precise detail enables  the correct diagnosis of WHY it doesn't work  to be made  and that is important because sometimes there are solutions or work arounds.

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16 hours ago, Scooternz said:

Yeah pretty sure it does as when I go into media, TV is an option and it scans for stations etc and if I go to "TV region" a whole lot of Japanese provinces come up to choose from. 

Have no idea about digital or analogue, but the VIN is NS62941

Cheers

Well, the good news is that your car was definately fitted with the TV function at the factory, and also that it was fitted with the Digital TV module and not the analogue one.

TV Function.JPG

However, from the parts system the TV module for Japan / China / Brazil is different to that fitted for other regions / markets. Now whether this is down to different hardware required for different digital TV formats, or just a software difference I can't tell. I can see that replacing the TV module with an NZ part would be an expensive option.

My suggestion would be to talk to one of the specialist NZ converters, like Euro Surgeon that have a lot of experience with swapping these things over and they will advise your best course of action. It could be a sodtware change, or possibly new hardware, but at least you have got some of the system from factory which gives you a head start.

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Japan uses the American NTSC TV standard  so unless there is a software select for PAL/ NTSC in the codec which is either software or firmware, it wont be able to make sense of the NZ PAL data stream or even recognise it to decode in the first place. . 

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I’m going to chime in here in the hope someone can help me with  my 5 series TV issue. 

I have a NZ new 2009 E61 525i with a DVD/TV player. 

The DVD player works fine but the TV is just static. Is that an analogue in my car vs digital issue? 

Has anyone remedied this here easily?

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given that tv turned didgital in 2013 i would guess the answer is yes.As suggested above talk to tone of the converter people.

a quick google turned up this....

 

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3 hours ago, kiwi535 said:

given that tv turned didgital in 2013 i would guess the answer is yes.As suggested above talk to tone of the converter people.

a quick google turned up this....

 

Paul, this is the conversion for ibus based tv modules. I’ve done this to my e46. From memory I only had the choice of one tuner module that did both the nz standard with Dolby ac3 for sound.. The key to the conversion was a custom micro controller that mapped the bmw button commands to a tuner standard.

The realty is the  coverage isn’t great . I get tv coverage in parts of Wellington only. But it’s very good when you can get it.

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Info on ibus / gen 2 tv module digital tv upgrade. Applicable to circa 2000 plus E39, E46, E53 and later ZMcoupes

 

scroll to last couple of pages for tv tuner

 

Edited by Neal
Link didn’t go to correct pages

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ok this may not be any good for an E61...just tryin to help.

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