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Spotted in Russel yesterday afternoon [ M6 ]
An absolutely beautiful gold M635 Csi... loved it... missed talking to the owner though
Had a really great weekend with freinds in Kerikeri as well... the weather was real sh*t getting back home today though
Hi Glenn,
I think i know that M635csi - it was the car that came up for sale here in Hamilton 6 months ago. was part of a deceased car dealer's estate and the car was un-driven for 15 years so was driving real rough.
EX UK car with no service history. Low k's around 72 ooo miles, but had too many issues to be compelling for me. Looked very straight though - the cream leather was immaculate.
Sold to a guy who has a garage I think in Whangarei or somewhere around there.
I am sure this is same car. The only other Bronzit beige M635csi that lives in NZ is another ex UK car that lives in Cch.
Regards,
SS
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That is the idea !!
Crappy weather this week has meant I've been unable to get behind the wheel of it.
Thanks for all the comments - I am on the lookout for some unrestored BBS Style 5's...I am sure I'm not the only one, but if anyone knows of any I'd be keen to know about them.
Hey Phil,
Congrats man! Well done. A beautiful car.
If you want a set of style 5's, the man who does them better than new (which may conflict with what you want) is a guy called Wolfe who runs a business in Germany selling refurbished wheels.
Check out wokke.de
A M6 owner from Melbourne that I know got a set from him, and they are unreal.
REgards.
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Sure, Apologies if the pics are to big..Unsure of how to make them smaller. They seem fine on my computer might not be on others..
Hi Marcus,
I sent a message to you, but I know the answer to my question now - you have bought James Katte's car! Nice vehicle - my mate Ross Lamb at BM workshop did alot of the work on that car. Ex Singapore with cream leather. Nice.
Regards,
SS
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you are missing the point....look at the original question,most replies are answering that question,you just dont like the answers
hi Paul, its cool, I was just identifying why I think this car has been struggling to be sold here - in my opinion they are a slightly enigmatic car and not appreciated for what they are...
I think we all know why the E39 and E34 have such a following...
All I think I was trying to do was express my opinion on why this car hasn't sold.....and why they don't have the same love.....I also think the NZ market is slightly different to overseas...
I felt passionate about responding to the question because I know that car quite well...
Sorry if you felt I was off tangent, wasn't my intention. Just love talking about some of the cars that hold some interest to me.....
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^ Pretty much the same for me.
While i quite like a good E28 the E34 just better looking imo. The E34 for me is the best balance between modern and classic bmw look, has great interior and enough features without getting carried away, as well as pricing as others have mentioned.
I concur - in my world the E34 is the prettiest of them all. I love the exterior / interior design. Very proportionate.
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Trouble is that E24 and E34 M5 and M6' are only fetching 16 to 18k, so it doesn't justify more than that I don't think.
You make a good point. However, one think you have to note is this. All the E34's for sale in NZ generally tend to have high mileage which may inhibit their marketability...I could be wrong but I wonder what a NZN E34 M5 would go for in NZ in great condition with say 130kms on the clock? Would that indeed be a $20k plus car?
As for the E24's you will see that the ones that have been languishing on t/me for sub $20k are ex Japan LHD vehicles or EX UK vehicles with spotty provenance. The last NZN vehicle M6 that sold here (albeit with 92 kms) and special history sold for around $40k and most NZN examples in good nick have traditionally gone for $25k plus (and they never hang around on t/me for eternity).
I personally think this E28 deserves to be sold for what the vendor wants. I have been in it, and know a previous owner very well and he sold it for $35k around 4 years ago.
Weird that the market seems to see it differently- and it has been for sale at $26k for a log time.
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Allan, Think you will find Dave was referring to asking price (whatever that was) was approx $8000 over it's value, not a value of $8000. Agree though that some people think their M cars are worth more than they are.
Old story though - market decides
Good point. However though, at $26k for the last year , it is definitely off the mark. Worth $18k?
If it was a NZN car with FSH, it would have to be worth more......
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As most of us would have seen, a E28 M5 has been for sale on TM for more than likely over a year now:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...n-290355688.htm
It got me thinking, why does it seem that New Zealand shows no love for the E28 M5? They seem to have a cult following in Europe and the US but no love here.
Also if the ad in the above link is correct, NZ only has 2 E28 M5's of the 187 RHD E28 M5's built.
So, how come the E28 M5 isnt as highly regarded in NZ as say the E34 and the E39 M5's?
Hey man,
I have been thinking about adding a post about this car for awhile.
Th bottom line is this - yes they are rare in rhd (187 for the rhd market, excluding 96 for the Sth African market (CKD I think) and that lends itself to keeping values up. Yes it was the first of the iconic M5's and has its place in M power history.
Even with 4 of them in NZ ( 2 NZN, the other 2 imports, including this Sth African example by way of Japan), I think they struggle to sell at international levels because they are misunderstood in this country and probably doesn't have the optical appeal to command much demand.
Unlike it's sibling, the E24 M635csi that has a following because of its looks; these are simply not that pretty, and do look old. I have driven one of these, and I actually think they are marginally quicker than the M635csi because they are lighter (echoed by my friend who owned this particular car who owned a M635 prior to the E28 M5).
This car has been for sale on and off for 5 years and was originally marketed for $35k. It has had a complete respray and has its suspension replaced. Probably needs a timing chain though. It is a good example though with the body kit that most of the UK cars lacked
In Australia, these go for about what this guy wants - mid to high $20's. The E34 M5's over there go for around $20k (even though they got around 70 3.6's delivered to OZ).
In this country, I don't people can justify spending big money on an old-looking sedan when there are so many other choices. Besides, it will be probably serve as a weekend toy, and there alot of people who would probably spend that amount of money on a classic sports car or GT.
Just my thoughts....in NZ one can get a HSV or Falcon that is newer that could probably (in some people's eyes )provide more kudos......
Shame......
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Hello everyone. I'm Jonathan, 18 and I live in Auckland. Just bought a 1990 E31 850IA. Some might've seen in on trademe before, it was the cheapest one :
To be honest I've never been a real Bimmer fan, the only models I've ever liked are E30 M3, E46 M3 and the E31. So when the chance came up of an affordable E31 that seem to have been taken care of quite nicely (service history from new, NZ new), I jumped at it. I will post pictures of it later today.
First question though, any E31 specialists in NZ? I understand there were only 70 max e31's in NZ so chances are rare but worth a shot. If there is none, wheres a good BMW specialist shop? Actually I know people have had bad experience with BMWorkshop. I also know there's a guy called Glenn that has a workshop especially for Euro's somewhere on this forum?
Any general advice is welcomed. I will be doing a lot of research but will ask many questions too. Any other E31 owners here?
Hi Jonathan,
Great to hear about your car. The guy I go to is Ross Lamb at BM Workshop in Botany. He is has helped me immensely for years. Great knowlege on E31's, and I take my one there.
Regards,
SS
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Does anyone know how many E9 CSL's are in New Zealand?
I know of 4, (black, blue,white & red) and my Father drove an orange one in the 80's (is this car still around?).
What made me ask is because I bumped into a client of mine today who was out at the supermarket in her Fathers CSL.
Hi there, I have a friend, Alan who is the oracle of all 70's and 80's BMW's (not to mention modern ones too) who may be able to help with your query. Alan is a member too, but not sure that he reads the topics here too often. He has a blue E9 csi.
I will ask him to respond to your query...
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What he said, would be a lovely investment & Sunday car, damn he's put some work into it.
Hi mate,
I have spoken to the owner and he seems a nice guy who has spent a fortune on making it even better - it has had a re-spray, new suspension, and has a new exhaust etc.
Look, what impresses me about this car is the history, condition, and mileage - only 70,000 miles (around 130kms). Where are you going to get a 635csi with that type of mileage these days - most have 200 kms + on the clock. There are some other fantastic examples of Highlines around in NZ including my old one and a friend of mine's black example, but none have mileage like this.
There are a few late model 635csi's in this country - but none were given the full "Highline" spec - they did not have the leather dashboards - that was unique to the UK spec cars.
All it needs is a set of Style 5's.
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Hi guys,
Check this car out - one of approximately 5 ex UK 635csi Highlines (that I know of anyway) in the country.
One of the last so was given ample leather and has the revised bumpers.
This car was sold on trademe about 4 years ago (for around $14k) and I thought it was ridiculously cheap. At $16k, I still think it is.
I once owned one of these - fab looking car and this looks wonderful in Lachs silver ? Nogaro silver?.
A worthy addition to someone's collection.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...n-289388237.htm
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next door neighbor just bought this car, going to ask him if he wants the 17inch Style 5s i picked up a little while ago as well
Hey man,
Are you saying that the Dakar car has been sold? The advert on trademe implies that it never reached reserve.
Interested to know as I am trying to put together a E31 register.
The Dakar vehicle is ex Singapore and has been in the country for quite awhile. The guy who has been marketing the car, James, has owned it since it arrived here when it had quite low kms.
I too prefer the Tobago blue example. It is also a ex Singaporean import and has the M-technic bodykit / mirrors that first appeared on the fire-breathing 850csi.That spec became standard on the later 840 ci Sports.
The colour / bodykit coupled with the Style 5's makes this car stunning. Drove it many years ago when it was on the yard at Tradin Post.
Like the Dakar example, both very original vehicles. and look like they are in good nick.
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Other than Combes, are there any other recomendations for other options on a reputable garage that knows or specalisies in older BMW's where I could get a pre-purchase inspection carried out ?
Thanks :-)
Hi Phil,
I live in the Tron but only use Ross Lamb at BM Workshop in Botany for any work on our BM's. I have known him for 11 years and he is the only guy I trust implicitly.
I know a few people have used SD European here in Hamilton for pre-inspections. A friend however got a M5 inspected there and was disappointed with the things they missed out on.
Apart from that Coombes are the only ones in HAmilton I would ever use. Martin who is the manager of the workshop is a BMW trained mechanic from England and has ample experience with older vehicles.
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But srsly at that price I'm out
Buying an M5 is the easy part April, to run it will cost you more than the purchase price over the years.
Boris you are so right. I have a friend who uses his E34 M5 as a DD (daily driver) and he is pedantic about maintenance and never skimps on spending money on his car.. Costs him $4k-$5k atleast a year.
On the b-side, if you only drive it on a sunday, the annual outlay could be considerably less!
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I'm looking to get a good sound system. Was initially leaning towards building a headphone amp with some good cans to match but I've decided they are too much of a 'formal' way to enjoy music, so speakers it is. I can't afford to do both well.
At this stage I'm looking at a CD with integrated DAC -> integrated amp -> 2 floor standing or bookshelf speakers with possibly a little sub. Not interested 100 speaker booming sub gazzillion watt 'home theater' setups and I don't need a receiver that can handle anything other than cds and FLAC through my iPod.
I'd like some advice as to what the pricing 'sweet spot' is for each of these units along with recommendations. Any good deals on trademe now?
As far as speakers go, I recently heard some arcam twos and was very impressed, also heard good things about PSB alpha B1s. Anyone know of anyone selling some?
Thanks!
Oh and is there a NZ forum for this type of stuff?
Hey man,
I think Audio enz is a good forum (from memory)
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trx tyres are dangerous in the wet , and stupid money for old tech rubber
I agree with you Brent, but saying that in the dry they are not that bad at all. Additionally, how many people these days drive their nice E24's on trashy days?
Additionally, I think if you are trying to restore a car like Ron's, the best case scenario is to make it as original as possible. There are more than a few E24 purists who will only have metrics sitting on their car as they were factory.
Another problem is what do you get that looks right? Being objective here, there are very few wheels that look right on a E24 M6. Style 5's are the ultimate option in my books but they are relatively expensive. I have seen a few E24's with 17" genuine Schnitzers which look kind of cool. Alpinas are fantastic too. However when you buy the genuine thing, all of these quite are expensive options.
However, too many E24's look naff in my opinion because the wheels they sit on just don't look like they suit the age of the car.
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was bruces(ashmill) wast it?
Yes, this is Bruce's car. I agree it is a lovely looking example. It was only sold about 6 months ago (?) I think to a family in Auckland.
I was surprised when I saw this on trademe.
I like the colour - a real M power colour from that period.
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Did these come with the m88? Or just an m30 with the M bits/pieces?
The UK / NZ M635csi's had the M88/3 power plant. There was never a 635csi with m options. It was either a M635csi (commonly called the M6, even though the US were the only market that officially used that moniker ) or a 635csi. Even though the visual differences were subtly - two vastly different vehicles.
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My moneys on it just being a 635i not an M6
Hi there, it is definitely a M635csi. It's a 85 in Lapis Blue.
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I know this car. I recall seeing this for sale at Turners at some point over the last 5 years and also at some point resurfaced at a 2nd hand Euro dealership next to BM Workshop in Grey Lynn.
At Turners the highest offer was $11k and at the dealership in Grey Lynn it was for sale for $15k.
I drove it. It is not the best looking example. The interior was appalling; the drivers seat had a hole in it and ithe leather was parched and worn out. Unusual for the E31 as I understood the leather utilised was of a high quality.
Paint was a little dull and required some hard work to rectify.
For what it is worth, I remember the car going pretty well. I remember heading onto the motor-way and being very impressed with the way the car accelerated. Rapid and smooth!
The mileage was around 200 kms so this 8 hasn't been driven much since.
Could be a expensive project. On the flip-side, it may have had alot of money thrown at it mechanically and could be a good, cheap 8.
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Hi mate,
That is a beautiful car. Fantastic to see that you have the colour that BMW had with all their initial promotional photos of the M6 when it came out. Even the promo car in NZ was Indy red. Sadly most of the m6 buyers in NZ and Australia seem to have ordered black!
How many do you think there are in NZ in this colour?
The colour I also like is Interlagos blue. There was a fabulous example with white leather that I'd see in East Tamaki regularly 3-4 years ago.
Welcome to the Bimmersport community! My goal is to get one of these over the next few years. I love them!
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Well thank you again - the Schnitzer does a lot of km in Auckland so you may well have seen it. It's loving the cool air at the moment - ate some little tosser in an Evo 7 on an onramp today, I should know better at my age but that baseball cap just pissed me off.
Just got the M5 back from the BM Workshop, had it serviced and checked out & it's in great condition. Never paid $240 for a set of plugs before though!
Tim
Hi Tim,
Btw- Which BM Worshop do you go to? Grey Lynn or Botany? I live in Hamilton but have always taken my cars to Ross at BM Workshop in Botany - he is a great guy and has an immense knowledge of these older special cars. He was the manager at Grey Lynn for many years, working for Guido before he started his own workshop. Either way, they are both very good.
I have a friend who has a very tidy 3.6 E34 M5 that is a 220,000 km daily driver and he swears by Ross's handi-work as well.
Regards.
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Tim, congrats on your collection! I think I have seen your Schnitzer E39 before. Good to see the E34 has gone to a good home. I think I started the topic- re: the discussion about the 3.8 M5. I have an interest in the E34 M5's and was trying to track this car down several years ago. I knew it was indeed the only NZN 3.8 M5 in the country, but had no idea where it was.
Congrats again. Avus Blau looks fantastic in these cars. I heard it was heading back to Auckland but had no idea who the new owner was. Well done.
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Hi Boris,
The facelifted M5 for sale you see today is owned by a very close friend of mine. He is an absolute car enthusiast and has owned nearly as many cars as our fellow member Clinton here. He habitually purchases exceptional cars and then makes them better by spending all of his spare time (seriously - like - 20 hours a weekend) making the car even better. He has been wanting the best facelift M5 money could buy for 2-3 years now. He has seen many, many cars but they all fell short. Until this one.
I saw this car when he bought it only a few weeks ago. It was in showroom condition. My friend has spent the last few weeks making it even better.
As is typical of him, the buzz of owning it has worn off, and yes, 4-5 weeks later, it is for sale.
Unbelievable, but there are people like him
I can tell you now, this would have to be one of the best M5's in this part of the world. I have not seen a better one and I have seen a few. My friend has incredible standards, and if anyone wants the best E39 M5 they can buy (irrespective of the price), this is the car.
It is the right spec, right colour, and hsa incredibly low mileage.