petone 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 Hi all, just a moan about stupid insurance. I got 3rd party fire and theft which costs about $150 a year (I think). Anyway thats fine but I recently lowered my car and when I told NZI they said that they needed to see the certification??? I did everything fully legal so there is no reason for me to go and waste good money on cert which I don't need. Or do I? And then when I asked about fitting 17s they said excess would go up another $500? I'm not happy at all. Now I can understand about engine mods but none of this makes me go any faster its just for handling and looks? Oh BTW I'm 18, have full licence, and have been paying insurance for over a year now with no claims, also its through a broker that the olds use but its in my name. Can anybody recommend a good insurance company that wont f**k me round and has good premiums and excess (Ok, i know, insurance like that is as rare as rocking horse sh*t but you get the idea) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nath 134 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 arg ur lucky dude- mines the same, but State, and bout 470!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 I'm not sure if you need a Cert or not, but info about suspension modification for LVC is at Linkage Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carl 3 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 (edited) I'm paying $550 through state for gold insurance, $9k cover, I think excess is either $500 or $750. Edited June 27, 2004 by ///Carl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant 4 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 If its any consolation, my insurance doubled when I moved from Cambridge to Auckland last year. This is even though in Auckland my car is in a locked garage, in a secure complex (i.e. to get to the car you wolud need to get into the secure complex, and break into the garage). In Cambridge, I very rarely even bothered to lock my car, and had it parked in an unlocked garage. But I'm not complaining, my insurance is still pretty cheap, and I have a 65% no claims bonus so this makes it even cheaper. Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carl 3 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 Yeah, go the no claims, make sure you get an alarm aswell, it's only a 5% discont through state (prob same elsewhere?) but that saves $25-50 a year and means keyless entry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andrew Report post Posted June 27, 2004 Yeah state wouldn't insure my car.. have to get it certed then try national auto club, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carl 3 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 Why wouldn't they cover you, does your car sit below the legal limit, or did they say you needed a cert for any modification??? The reason I ask is that i've lowered my car (still legal) and am about to change teh gearbox... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*sic 1 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 state pretty much said "f**k off" to me when i told them about my crx, two of my other cars they insured no questions asked.. no problems, bo differences this time except a little old crx... with "minimal modification" :mosh: bastids auto club slapped me $650 for third party fire (no theft) so a waste of my time really :thumbsdown: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant 4 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 Why wouldn't they cover you, does your car sit below the legal limit, or did they say you needed a cert for any modification??? The reason I ask is that i've lowered my car (still legal) and am about to change teh gearbox... The gearbox won't matter. I just rung and informed my insurance company, and they noted it on my file. They didn't care at all and didn't ask any questions.Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andrew Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Why wouldn't they cover you, does your car sit below the legal limit, or did they say you needed a cert for any modification??? The reason I ask is that i've lowered my car (still legal) and am about to change teh gearbox... The engine swap .. its easiest when you cert to get everything done.. my seats the springs/shocks and motor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dnz 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Theyll want more excess for the wheels coz they could get stolen. Just decide wether peace of mind is worth the extra money or not. National autoclub will insure anyone pretty much, but thats also why they got high excess and price for most.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petone 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 The car as its sits now is fully legal - 100mm clearance, captive springs etc but they want cert which costs at least $300. As for the wheels I hopefully buying some 2nd hand for $500 which really pisses me off that they want $500 excess for it. I realise its cheaper to do the cert all at once but I dont have the money to do everything at once. Oh well I just suppose its my fault for being under 25 and having such a fast car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadowninja 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Modified vehicle, 18 yr old driver... you can't expect to get decent insurance terms. The statistics for vehicles in that demographic are horrendous... I don't know why any insurance company insures male drivers under 20. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M325is 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Im 19 on a restricted licence and have my car fully insured under my name for $13,500 with state insurance, I pay $700 a year. They insured me within 10mins on the phone, ive never had problems with state insurance with any of my cars. I guess its just up to who you talk with. Good luck, Id try again and dont tell them you have already called. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant 4 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Im 19 on a restricted licence and have my car fully insured under my name for $13,500 with state insurance, I pay $700 a year. They insured me within 10mins on the phone, ive never had problems with state insurance with any of my cars. I guess its just up to who you talk with. Good luck, Id try again and dont tell them you have already called. It depends on if you have insured a car with them before, and your record. Have you insured a car with them before?But that is a really good price for a male under 25. Is that with a no claims bonus too? Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M325is 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Yeh, i have insured 2 other cars with them before, but if i have an accident i pay the first $800 I think, but still $800 against $13500 is nothing. They insured the head deck, wheels on my car ontop of the cars $11,500. So im happy. :bounce: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*sic 1 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 but is it on the "blacklist".... my car is.. well wasnt until i told them about it haha :mosh: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOMAGE 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 In some respect you're getting an ok deal, i've heard of worse. I drive a minta '86 318iM :bowdown: that is completely stock except for the king springs that stiffened things up, it doesnt even look low. Example in my case, when i went to change my insurance i uttered the letters B...M...W... and they just smiled at me and said "ahh, no". When i wasked why, there was a bullshit excuse of that it was and 1800 coupe and i was young. To that, my comeback was that my previous car was a 2lt couple (honda accord) and prior to that was a toyota levin (when i was 17!!) After negotiations with their head honcho in auckland they accepted me. Few years later now, i'm paying $730 pa @ 65% NCD (!!), and recently recieved a letter saying due to the fact that e30's are now a targetted car, my excess is $1k, with an excess for attempted theft or theft of $1500 !! Note, dont insure with the AA, they're a bunch of theiving &*$%#& !! and i too am searching for a better deal!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andrew Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Seeing as the market value of a 84 320 was 3300 and the market value of a 318 is even less they refused to insure me full insurance based on ethical grounds. The 325.. which has had so much coin spent on it is getting valued by a valuer person and then the insurance company will do agreed values. M325is - that is a ridulous price.. I have 2 cars insured with them.. I'm 19 have full insurance - no claims etc and know people at state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gus 5 Report post Posted June 28, 2004 Rob, your paying crazy money....for a 318! its not like you could crash it....im actually surprised that im insured...insured for 5k FAT with 1.5k excess or so (had a crash when i was younger) ive had my full for 2 years which probably helps though....and its for 2500cc.....being 18 im surprised i got insured. im with westpac, which is lumley general insurance, probably helps that my folks are with them...full ins with them was around 3.5g a year, with nat auto club around a grand Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M325is 0 Report post Posted June 29, 2004 M325is - that is a ridulous price.. I have 2 cars insured with them.. I'm 19 have full insurance - no claims etc and know people at state. Why do you say that? I think what im paying is very resonable for a modified car worth $13500. Id rather pay a small price now then a large one later with all the dicking around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aliluya 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 darn my last car costed $3K or so to insure, and about $3.5K excess national auto club was the only company that will insure it .... and i'm currently 20 years old and my new car is only around $1K premium but excess is like $5K !!!!!!!! I'm with so other company now, can't remember what it is as broker arranges it all ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
threeta 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 make sure you tell them about EVERY mod - as soon as you claim they'll decline on the basis that the mod made the car stand out more. and hence the higher premiums for mod cars!! i'm paying about $80 pa for 3rd party only - but 65% no claims and i'm a little over 25 (41)!! hahaha sounds like the premiums we paid in the uk - approx $2000 pa for thrid party only with 65% no claims!!! (325i) is group 7 over there - in the really scary high premium bracket) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spargo Report post Posted July 1, 2004 It's all about who you know. Costs 800 a year for the iS with 40 points on licence(3 weeks away from beingg clean!), and a couple of eye watering camera fines) but i've got 3 years no claims at a 50% discount. For sheer amusement, i rang them and asked about being nominated driver on big red, the the answer was suprising, a resonable 2K a year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites