samo455 7 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 got all the water lines for the turbo done today plus got an intercooler for $60 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akuma Tanaka 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 hmmm crunchy, aint many of those turbos round!!! cant wait sammo gonna be awesome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 hmmm crunchy, aint many of those turbos round!!! cant wait sammo gonna be awesome theres one or 10 kicking around in my workshop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samo455 7 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) ok so today was mostly just giving the engine a clean panted water hoses added a chinesium wastgate of tm $120 7psi spring wrinkle pained rocker cover and finished welding downpipe oil feed done $120 of tm not chinesium this was japanesium still haven't found a pipe to weld in my sump so that's the next steep Edited November 23, 2012 by samo455 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 To be honest with you...... Your doing great for very low budget the biggest issue is the oil return unfortunately you've already positioned the turbo an easy place of oil return is the front cover but the turbo needs to be higher up, the next way is build a small catch tank under the turbo then use a vacuum pump off an diesel alternator run it off the main fan belt then suck the oil out and pump it back into the rocker cover. The other way is a lot more work you weld a pipe to the oil pickup in the sump run it to the front of the sump then run the turbo return into it, it acts as a scavenge and doesn't hurt oil supply to the motor i do this on turbo bikes works well but a fair bit of work is needed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorburn 120 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 what is the downpipe made from? looks like stainless pipe Where do you tap into for the water feed? somehow get behind the thermostat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akuma Tanaka 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 theres one or 10 kicking around in my workshop Ahhh, thought the user name looked familiar LOL, heya Steve!! This thing is comming along awesome, was gonna go for a look today! but got busy.. I will drop off the donut for the wastegate return tomorrow before training.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akuma Tanaka 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 Oh yeah, HAPPY BIRTHDAY SAMMO!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 Ahhh, thought the user name looked familiar LOL, heya Steve!! This thing is comming along awesome, was gonna go for a look today! but got busy.. I will drop off the donut for the wastegate return tomorrow before training.. evening Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samo455 7 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 what is the downpipe made from? looks like stainless pipe Where do you tap into for the water feed? somehow get behind the thermostat the downpipe is just 3'' mild steel used donut for the bends and water is just run thru the line to the trotle body not sure it i have thought that thru as the water may not flow unless the intake air is realy cold so il have to study that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samo455 7 Report post Posted November 24, 2012 To be honest with you...... Your doing great for very low budget the biggest issue is the oil return unfortunately you've already positioned the turbo an easy place of oil return is the front cover but the turbo needs to be higher up, the next way is build a small catch tank under the turbo then use a vacuum pump off an diesel alternator run it off the main fan belt then suck the oil out and pump it back into the rocker cover. The other way is a lot more work you weld a pipe to the oil pickup in the sump run it to the front of the sump then run the turbo return into it, it acts as a scavenge and doesn't hurt oil supply to the motor i do this on turbo bikes works well but a fair bit of work is needed. thanks man good idea i had seen the vac pump idea somewhere befor and worked well i was told i may be ok thou i have about 3 and a half inches of fall to my sump would that enough Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted November 24, 2012 thanks man good idea i had seen the vac pump idea somewhere befor and worked well i was told i may be ok thou i have about 3 and a half inches of fall to my sump would that enough it needs to be an inch above the oil level line you can if theres enough fall run it around to the other side Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samo455 7 Report post Posted November 28, 2012 it needs to be an inch above the oil level line you can if theres enough fall run it around to the other side OK I CAN GET IN THE FONT COVER JUST ITS ABOUT I INCH OF FALL BUT ITS VEREY COSE WHAT DO U THINK CRUNCHY CAN THE COVER BE REMOVED WITHOUT REMOVING THE HEAD OR IS IT TORQUED DOWN ON IT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted November 28, 2012 OK I CAN GET IN THE FONT COVER JUST ITS ABOUT I INCH OF FALL BUT ITS VEREY COSE WHAT DO U THINK CRUNCHY CAN THE COVER BE REMOVED WITHOUT REMOVING THE HEAD OR IS IT TORQUED DOWN ON IT its not really enough fall mines two inches further up which you cant fit in i would look into a scavenge pump then theres never going to be an issue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topcat 11 Report post Posted November 29, 2012 i also have a low mount setup,with max 2inches of fall. the way i got around the problem was to plumb it into the sump and then run an oil resistant hose,bent round to face the back of engine. so far,no oil backing up problems. probably best if i dig up a pic and post (to expain my england better) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samo455 7 Report post Posted November 29, 2012 i also have a low mount setup,with max 2inches of fall. the way i got around the problem was to plumb it into the sump and then run an oil resistant hose,bent round to face the back of engine. so far,no oil backing up problems. probably best if i dig up a pic and post (to expain my england better) that would be awesome i Googled m50 turbo oil return and and everybody seams to just go in at the top of the sump on the right hand side when i tried it it was still below the oil line but maybe when the engine is running the oil line drops just enough because i haven't read of anyone having an issue with it like the yet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted November 29, 2012 that would be awesome i Googled m50 turbo oil return and and everybody seams to just go in at the top of the sump on the right hand side when i tried it it was still below the oil line but maybe when the engine is running the oil line drops just enough because i haven't read of anyone having an issue with it like the yet nice thought but it still causes issues Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topcat 11 Report post Posted November 29, 2012 that would be awesome i Googled m50 turbo oil return and and everybody seams to just go in at the top of the sump on the right hand side when i tried it it was still below the oil line but maybe when the engine is running the oil line drops just enough because i haven't read of anyone having an issue with it like the yet had to dig deep,but here it is,cheap option,and it works(so far) not sure what you think of it Steve, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted November 29, 2012 had to dig deep,but here it is,cheap option,and it works(so far) not sure what you think of it Steve, if theres enough fall from the turbo it can work but if you over fill the sump if you were going to have a play at a track day it could cause and issue you can also tee into the oil pickup itll act as a scavenge i still think an external scavenge pump would be the answer being that low, but no harm in trying the worst itll do is smoke all the time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samo455 7 Report post Posted November 30, 2012 ok i see links plug and play is m50tub25 only i converted my car to vanos just to see what it was all about i didn't like it that's why im putting the other engine back in the only difference i can see is i wire for vanos solenoid and a o2 sensor so why cant i use it anyone else troubled them self over this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorburn 120 Report post Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Non vanos have a different trigger wheel offset. If your going to change any wiring you'd might as well get another link and wire it in Otherwise there are a few people around who can make up 'plug and play' harnesses Vanos is far superior in my opinion but that's another discussion Edited November 30, 2012 by Thorburn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samo455 7 Report post Posted December 4, 2012 OK BACK IN TO IT PULLED THE VANOS ENGINE OUT TODAY ONLY TO FIND THE 4 PUK CLUTCH HAS MUNCHED A MM OR 2 OFF BOTH THE PRESSUER PLAT AND FLYWHEEL BOTH WARPED AND BURNT THOUGHT SOMETHING FELT FUNNY SO I THE HARTAGE BACK WHERE IT BELONGS AND I HAVE NOW SPENT MY ECU MONEY ON A NZAD CLUTCH AND FLYWHEEL $1200 I HAVE STATED MOCKING UP INTERCOOLER PIPING HERE IS I FEW PIC WHERE IM UP TO GOING TO GO WITH A LINK WILL TAKE A FEW MOTHS OF SAVING STORM OR EXTREME CAN I GET A STORM WORKING WITH STOCK COILS WITH WAST SETUP WILL AND IGNITOR BE OK TO FIRE 2 COILS OF 1 CHANEL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted December 4, 2012 you need a 3 channel ignitor you can use one off a RB20/25 go to pickapart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted December 4, 2012 Ok this guys working very fast. one question where did you get the strut brace? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samo455 7 Report post Posted December 4, 2012 Ok this guys working very fast. one question where did you get the strut brace? I made it i found some chrome molly lying around so i put it to good use Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
