Beeker2 69 Report post Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Who knows about this: Group N spec: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-BMW-Motorsport-E36-M3-S50B30-Group-N-race-car-ECU-chip-set-Gr-N-Gruppe-N-/151238118732?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item23367e8d4c On the face value it looks like a simple and cost effective extra few HP ? PS. Apples with oranges, this is a 3.2 post on Group N chip http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?759585-Dyno-comparison-Group-N-vs-Stock-Siemens-MSS50-DME-of-S50-B32 Edited March 13, 2014 by Beeker2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beeker2 69 Report post Posted March 13, 2014 I'm sure you need matching cams... well everything I've read indicates so. Looking at those charts there's a negligible difference, one you couldn't really feel. BUT - please do this and let us all know! I believe Group N cams are the same except blue printed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30-323ti 66 Report post Posted March 13, 2014 Have a word with morerevsm3 he has a well 'tuned' and Mod'd S50B30 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2052NV 43 Report post Posted March 13, 2014 Ring Hans at nzperformancetuning.co.nz He is the man and will advise on how crappy/waste of time those ebay chips are..... then he'll map your car properly and you'll be bloody happy you did as the performance gains when doing it properly are awesome!! 09-8376252 He is also a bimmersport member and fellow BMW enthusiast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westy 614 Report post Posted March 14, 2014 Have a word with morerevsm3 he has a well 'tuned' and Mod'd S50B30 'Well' may be an understatement ha. http://performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?67210409-1994-M3/page6&highlight=morerevsm3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FRT 144 Report post Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) Who knows about this: Group N spec: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-BMW-Motorsport-E36-M3-S50B30-Group-N-race-car-ECU-chip-set-Gr-N-Gruppe-N-/151238118732?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item23367e8d4c On the face value it looks like a simple and cost effective extra few HP ? I'm running that guys 3.0 Group N chips in my race car/DD with stock cams. Good improvement pulls well right through to the higher rev limit. Think the remap of the VANOS is probably more noticeable that HP increase. At my door in 6 days for $140NZD had it running an hour later. I bought it because at least its factory BMW so will have some safety factors built in esp for running 4000 - 7500 rpm for 15 minute at a time. Edited March 22, 2014 by FRT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beeker2 69 Report post Posted March 22, 2014 Have you dyno'ed it to check how its actually performing ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FRT 144 Report post Posted March 22, 2014 No, that would cost more than the chip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1043 Report post Posted March 22, 2014 Its Group-N software .. pretty much the best for a standard engine. Lots of people dont tune the VANOS controller so its good to see this is included. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beeker2 69 Report post Posted March 22, 2014 Its Group-N software .. pretty much the best for a standard engine. Lots of people dont tune the VANOS controller so its good to see this is included. I'm 99% sure i'm gonna order the same. Will dyno before and also after, and it will be interesting to see the 'real' wheel kw changes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1043 Report post Posted March 23, 2014 Yeah it will be ... nice work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FRT 144 Report post Posted March 23, 2014 I'm 99% sure i'm gonna order the same. Will dyno before and also after, and it will be interesting to see the 'real' wheel kw changes. Please post up your results id be keen to see. cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
