m325i 709 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 There is a bit of tyre info floating, but nothing definative on here. Just wanting you guys opinion on what are the best in terms of: Grip Look (i love a chunky aggressive pattern) most importantly: Wear. What is the hardest wearing tyre out there? Id sacrafice grip for lastability. Also what is a good tyre specialist? No offence to anyone afiliated, but a lot of large chain stores don't really know what they are talking about. PS would you guys water blast basket weaves to clean them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30-323ti 66 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 There is a bit of tyre info floating, but nothing definative on here. Just wanting you guys opinion on what are the best in terms of: Grip Look (i love a chunky aggressive pattern) most importantly: Wear. What is the hardest wearing tyre out there? Id sacrafice grip for lastability. Also what is a good tyre specialist? No offence to anyone afiliated, but a lot of large chain stores don't really know what they are talking about. PS would you guys water blast basket weaves to clean them? I like Conti's (Thanks Micheal).Agree, the run of the mill tyre companies are useless if you know any better. I'd (do) use a water blaster, does a good job, then mag cleaner if needed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimocles 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2005 Great question. best grip in a road legal tyre - Dunlop Direzza DZ02G (competition tyre) shameless quote from Jim Richards "the best targa tyre I've ever used" come in a few different compounds. Durability usually means cheap - but my Direzza DZ101s have been lasting me pretty well, up to 30k now and probably another 10-15k in them depending on how many track days I do on them. and are a bloody good tyre. although I'm going to try the sportmaxx next and see what thats like. as to the Hardest wearing tyre, I'm not really sure. but if you look after any tyre with a wheel alignment at least once a year and rotate them every 5k you can get alot more out of your tyres, if you have Directional tyres, get them flipped on the rim so you can swap them diagonally when you rotate them. Tyre Experts, some people are better than others. ppl who I rate would be Me - I trip around every major motorsport event rally, circuit and Targa doing tyres for people and my day job is Marketing for South Pacific tyres. Otherwise my personal tyre techs I rate list would be, in no particular order. Peter Wildbore at Beaurepaires Palmerston North Erle Grey, Beaurepaires Barrys Point Rd in AKL Shaun Brown, Frank Allen Tyres Greenlane Blair Struthers, Goodyear Wanganui Wayne at Beaurepaires Taumaranui Craig, beaurepaires Glenfield These are all people who have worked with us for years mostly in Motorsport and all know their stuff. More than happy to help out people, just email me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andrew Report post Posted December 1, 2005 Jim: I need a set of 205/55/15 Formula Rs - Discount Tyres would/could not help me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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E30-323ti 66 Report post Posted December 2, 2005 Jim: I need a set of 205/55/15 Formula Rs - Discount Tyres would/could not help me. /55's why so tall???oh, thats right, your zorst is real low Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cainchapman 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2005 best grip in a road legal tyre - Dunlop Direzza DZ02G (competition tyre) shameless quote from Jim Richards "the best targa tyre I've ever used" come in a few different compounds. No disrespect, but it is the DUNLOP Targa rally. So Jim has no choice but to use Dunlop tyres. I believe it may be the best of that range. A bit like asking Steve Jobs what the best computer is, and hearing "Apple Mac". I personally think the grippiest tyre (outside of a slick) is the Yokohama A048R. Pirelli P7000 last a long time, quiet, but not performance orientated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andrew Report post Posted December 2, 2005 Pirelli P7000 last a long time, quiet, but not performance orientated. got them on the e36 - pretty sticky in the dry - horrible in the wet - but your right - quiet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m325i 709 Report post Posted December 2, 2005 The guy said chunky and hard wearing and grip not so important Best match to criteria would be a set of 15 year old un used 4WD tyres or snow tyres off a used jap import! They will be hard as and will not wear, they will look chunky and they will NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT stick. Best of they will probably give them to you, only drawback is they may be a bit noisy. Just what you need on the ultimate driving machine As insightful as your comments are, you misunderstood what i was saying.i love a chunky aggressive pattern Pattern like as opposed to You guys know what im saying. All tyres have strengths and weaknesses. Im looking for a hard wearing tyre, and it would be a nice bonus if it looked good. Not interested in 'budget' tyres. Anything 'decent' in terms of quality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dnz 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2005 Falken azenis are nice. FK451's are their top of the range - im gonna get some once these contis die. Continentals are hard as, and squeal easily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martyyn 2 Report post Posted December 2, 2005 Falken azenis are nice. FK451's are their top of the range - im gonna get some once these contis die. Continentals are hard as, and squeal easily. Ive just finished a set of these on the 740. Nice and grippy, but pretty noisy when compared to the Dunlop Sport 01's I have now thanks to Jim.I was reasonably impressed with the Falkens, but what surprised me was how quickly they went bald when it was obvious to me they were going. They certainly arent the longest lasting tyre that Ive had and if push came to shove I think I would take the Dunlops I have now over them. Having said that I do miss the extra 20 ml I had with the 275's rather than the 255's I have now on the rear ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
my_e36 43 Report post Posted December 2, 2005 What about Bridgestone? Are they hopeless now? MY01, G3 and SO3, how do they compare to what we are talking here now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted December 2, 2005 i have bridgestone g 3 and they seem fine.They seem to be lasting well,they grip well wet and dry not noisy(maybe not quiet either i dont think you can be objective,old tyres will normally be noisier than new ones).For the record i run 235 45 17.I do do get tramlining. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m325i 709 Report post Posted December 2, 2005 I was reasonably impressed with the Falkens, but what surprised me was how quickly they went bald when it was obvious to me they were going. i have had a set of falkens. very good except what you said. which is why im wont get them again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted December 2, 2005 Having said that I do miss the extra 20 ml I had with the 275's rather than the 255's I have now on the rear ! 20 ml? Thats about 4 teaspoons.Dont you mean 20mm Good seeing ya yesterday mate,and hope you manage to get some R and R this weekend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martyyn 2 Report post Posted December 2, 2005 20 ml? Thats about 4 teaspoons.Dont you mean 20mm Good seeing ya yesterday mate,and hope you manage to get some R and R this weekend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Andrew Report post Posted December 3, 2005 would still go the direzzas - sticky - will last a while and only around 750 - 800 a set. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jazzbass 1 Report post Posted December 3, 2005 I love some of the 'aggressive' tread tyres - they can really lift a car's appearance. I went with asymmetric Yokohamas A539s on the E36 318 I had and they handled/lasted very well, but were a tad noisy. On my E36 325, I eneded up with a set of Silverstones FTZ Sports, which were even more noisy, but held on well at Manfield, although I found they tended to break a bit unexpectedly in the rain there. I never had a problem on the road though, despite some pretty aggressive driving at times. The asymmetric tyres never looked 'right' to me, so although the Yokos might have been a better tyre, I preferred the looks of the Silverstones. Since I spent only a few hours in track conditions and a couple of years in road conditions, I found normal road use & appearance to be more worth than track performance to me. I have a friend who owns a tyre (or rather tire) shop in Atlanta and he he swears by Toyo Proxes. He races BMW. I'm running the OEM tyres for my E39 528 - Bridgestone Turanza ER30. They're very quiet and I haven't been in much rain to try them out, but they seem a pretty decent tyre in the dry. However, they're not much to look at and I think I'll go for a better-looking tyre when I change. I always do a full set when I need a tyre, so that's not a problem. That's one more good thing about BMWs - all the tyres wear at the same rate, due to the car's balance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dnz 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2005 Yeah i've heard good things about the toyo's - cool treadpattern aside, has anyone here had any? I know on bimmerforums theyre quite well regarded - as well as Khumo MX's i believe.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m325i 709 Report post Posted December 3, 2005 In my experiance Toyos are wicked, but too soft = wear too fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jazzbass 1 Report post Posted December 4, 2005 I think its hard for us Kiwis to accept opinions from other countries with more than a grain of salt. Our roads are far rougher than many other places and the tyre wear is affected accordingly. That's something which pisses me off. Every place in NZ I've lived, they lay down a nice smooth ashphalt road, then a year or less later they go and rough gravel it! Grrrrrr!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmwsparkle 3 Report post Posted December 4, 2005 ive currently got proxy4 at the moment, good on the road, but scrubbed up real easy on manfeild Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m325i 709 Report post Posted December 4, 2005 (edited) No mis understanding just deliberate ridicule of the tabled criteria. To quote a reliable tyre GURU read patterns are a fashion.Fashion. Exactely. That's why i specified that. For looks. More importantly is match them to the car and suspension no point in putting 245/35/ 18 pseudo race tyres on a baggy E30 318 with 400,000 km on the clock Do go on to suggest a suitable tyre for my vehicle then... a 1986 325i, which is slightly lowered. nearly 400,000 kms on the clock. thanks in advance. **edit: Nankang NS2s for $125 looks like the best deal? Edited December 5, 2005 by m325i Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petone 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 toyo make a tire called something like Maxmiler, designed for taxis etc. Not sure what sizes it comes but they can last for up to 80000km. Haven't driven on it so can't tell you anymore but ask a toyo dealer about that. As for other tires of the ones I've used I reckon the Toyo TPTs give a real good compromise between grip/durablility/cost. Don't have a real chunky pattern though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m325i 709 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Dropping a set of these: NS2 Nankang. Bitches will see that 'in' pattern, and they'll know who has tyre fashion sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites