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95 E36 M3 Starting/Immobilizer Problem

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1995 E36 M3 Sedan. The starter has been dodgy for a few weeks.  It wouldn't always engage when switched to 'start', but a redo would get it going sometime first try, sometimes another.  Now it has quit all together.  Nothing at all happens when switched to start, not a single sound.  I suspected the immobilizer.  I have just confirmed this by wrangling my arm and a 12v wire up underneath onto the the starter and found that the starter does infact work if it gets the 12V signal to the solenoid.  Also confirmed no 12v when the key is switched to 'start'. Also confirmed there is 12v on the ignition switch in 'start' position.Getting to the point, finally, I can't find the immobilizer.  See attached diagrams.  Is 95 'early', or 'late'?  Anyone have any experience finding the immobilizer relay? Or, is there another relay somewhere that has failed (not according to the wiring diagrams but who knows?)

It would seem it's behind the glovebox but I'd like some confirmation before I go though all the trouble to remove the glovebox.  I looked behind the LH speaker panel, there's nothing... or should it be RH since this is a RHD car and the diagrams show LHD?

An interesting side note, I have been bump starting the car (push it, pop the clutch) which works no problem, so it seems the fuel pump is not controlled by the immobilizer.  The wiring diagrams show that it is on some cars (Canada) and not on others (USA). So I guess it isn't on Europe as well, assuming I am correct about the immobilizer being the issue.  

Any help appreciated.immobilizer0.thumb.png.994b8e34a34d05181cc02ca2581f4fc9.pngimmobilizer1.thumb.png.599b31211392723167569ff6605c5c58.pngimmobilizer2.thumb.png.6cff9da77413100dc50cadf7e41e31e8.png

 

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If it has EWS 2 then the relay is part of the EWS module behind the glove box. You can test it by bridging the 2 larger gauge power wires together then trying to start the car, if it cranks then you indeed have a EWS bad relay\module .

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