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    fitting sunroof?

    gogogo 2 second google info... Now let's get one thing straight first - sunroofs aren't just for egomaniacs! If you've ever owned a car with a sunroof - no matter what type - you can appreciate the pleasant, relaxing environment that they create. They're very therapeutic. They give a much airier feeling inside the cabin, allow the release of hot air and the passing of airflow through the cabin and - most noticeably - the sun can beat down on your head, giving you that windswept feeling. The resale value of your car goes up too. And once you get used to a car with a 'roof, it's damn hard to go back to one with just an expanse of metal fixed across the top. In fact, it's been suggested that two out of every three people who have owned a car with a sunroof will have one installed in their later vehicles. There are a few of different types of sunroofs available too... Tilt 'n' Slide The most common sunroof - as factory fitted to the more up-market cars - is the tilt and slide type. There are two variations on this particular design as well - they come in a choice of either a steel or glass roof. Both are configured so that you can raise the rear edge of the roof to allow heated air to vent out of the cabin, or you can retract the whole sunroof assembly back into (or over) the rear section of the car's roof to get the full open-top feeling. The glass roof version is essentially the same as the metal one - you can have the rear edge raised or the whole roof slid back for open-top motoring. But you can also slide the interior trim panel back so there's light getting in through the glass - but no air. One real advantage of this is that on dark and rainy days, you can slide the interior trim panel back to let light in - and your head won't get wet at the same time! Pop Up/Tiltable Glass The most basic sunroof is the pop up or tiltable glass design, which have been around for donkey's years. They let light in at all times (which can be annoying on a hot sunny day when your head's getting burnt), and are able to be adjusted so that the rear edge is cracked open. They're not great for allowing maximum airflow through the cabin whilst moving, but they can let heat out of a parked car when it's in the open position. Alternatively, it is possible to remove the glass panel altogether when you want to go all-out. But the real beauty is that nothing can really go wrong with their operation and that they are a breeze to fit. This is the one sunroof most people can tackle fitting at home - all you need are some basic metal cutting tools and the right sealers. Just make sure you measure twice and cut once... Folding Sunroof Folding sunroofs (often called rag-top sliders) are identifiable by their fabric or vinyl top cover which slides open like an accordion. This top cover usually comes in contact with the vehicle roof to form a watertight seal, rather than using a gasket like other sunroof types. Like a steel sunroof, the folding sunroof can only be set in a closed or open-to-the-elements position (ie there is no glass roof to let the light in on its own). However, one main feature of the folding sunroof is that its aperture is usually greater than any other type of sunroof - which can mean more fun! Tilt 'n' Slide Sunroof Installation... To find out how a tilt'n'slide sunroof is installed, we went along to Adelaide's Sunroof City to see them put a Hollandia TVS into a brand new Mitsubishi Verada. The process takes about two days - and here's why! Step One The first step is to remove the factory hood lining and to install flexible water drain tubes (of a fairly large diameter) into the car's pillar frames. These tubes are used to channel the water that gets caught by the sunroof down to the factory water drainage locations at the bottom of the sill panels. Step Two In some cars, it may be necessary to remove a structural component of the roof's frame - these can be found running either fore aft or from side to side. Any foam or sound deadening material that the factory has fitted between the roof and the hood lining is also removed to make space for the sunroof. Step Three On the outside, the template for the relevant sunroof is measured out and marked onto the paint. Sunroof City chose to use masking tape to do this - which also served to protect the paint from some of the process that were to follow... By far, the most brutal part of a sunroof install is the use of an air chisel to cut a V shape into the roof. This V is then folded over to give enough room to get an electric nibbler in, which is used to carefully cut around the template. Obviously, extreme care must be taken in this step! Step Four The sunroof assembly (called the "cassette") is offered up to the opening in the roof and stuck to it using adhesive - with jacks being used to support the assembly from underneath. However, more solid mounting for the sunroof comes from a metal bracket that is riveted to the roof frame at both sides of the car. Step Five After the adhesive on the cassette assembly has had time to dry, any sharp edges around the hole that were created by the electric nibbler are then removed using an electric file. Step Six Still on top of the roof, the exposed bare metal that has been created by the large sunroof incision must be coated with a primer sealer to prevent corrosion. Step Seven The wiring harness for the 'roof (normally 12V supply, earth and ignition power) is then soldered into place, and the drainage tubes that have been routed through the pillars are connected to the facilities in the base of the sunroof. Step Eight The factory head lining that was removed in the beginning is cut to accept the shape of the new sunroof, and is then covered in fabric matching that used later on for the interior blind. Step Nine With the glue dried, the new hood lining is tek-screwed to the roof frame and all of the factory trim pieces (such as sun visors) are re-installed. Incidentally, the underside of the Hollandia sunroof is trimmed in foam to give the new head lining a soft feel. The electric switch for the sunroof is simply pushed through a cut in the hood lining into a mounting hole that comes cast into the front of the sunroof cassette. If desired, this switch can be remote mounted somewhere on the dash using extension wires. Here's what it looks from the inside with all this completed... Step Ten The next trimming task is to make up the interior trim blind. Hollandia supply a metal sheet as a base, which the installer has to trim with fabric to match that used on the new hood lining. Once this has been cut out and glued on, the supplied plastic handles then clip into the metal base to give it the finishing touch. Step Eleven The trimmed blind is inserted into the cassette assembly, which is then finally sealed up by fitting a gutter along its bottom edge. This gutter serves feeds the plastic drain tubes. Step Twelve A rubber edge is then run around the sunroof cavity and cut to length at the join in the middle. This protects the edge of the metal and improves the overall appearance of the 'roof. Step Thirteen The retracting glass panel is then bolted to the mounting facilities in the cassette and set into the closed position. This will compress the rubber seal into its usual position, and the glass remains protected by its plastic wrapper until the next step is completed... Step Fourteen To properly seal the external rubber edge, a bead of silicone rubber is run underneath the top side of the rubber - with any excess wiped away as quickly as possible. That's why the plastic wrapper was left on the glass! And Finally... The last step - removing the plastic wrapper. Ah, job done. $$$ Cost Our example of a Hollandia TVS sunroof installed to a car such as the shown Mitsubishi Verada will cost around A$2300. A simple tilting glass sunroof will only cost around A$350 installed, while on the other hand, a top line 'roof fitted with a rolled metal edge around the hole (which requires a roof respray) might run out to around A$2900 (depending on paint costs). And in case you are wondering, a rolled metal edge is a personal taste thing only - it has no real-world advantage. Maintenance In the case of all sunroofs, its condition and operation depends on its cleanliness and maintenance. However, here are the main two areas that can cause some trouble if not properly tended to... Seals/Drainage Two of the main causes of a leaking tilt-style sunroof are age and sun damage - the seals deteriorate, leading to small gaps through which water can gush. To prevent it from wearing out prematurely, clean this seal at least twice a year with a clean, damp cloth. However, if you've just bought a car that already leaks due to a worn seal, it may be possible to source a new seal from the manufacturer. In a power sunroof, most leaks occur because debris builds up in the trough, clogging the drain holes and therefore preventing drainage through the tubes. To stop this from happening, simply clean the trough of any dirt and wipe it with a damp cloth. Next, examine the drain holes to verify they are clear of any obstruction that may prevent water from draining. In some cases, the drain tubes may be clogged and require a flush out - which is best performed by a sunroof specialist. Drive Systems Tilt'n'slide type sunroofs have a cable drive system into which dirt, grit, salt and debris can ingress - causing sluggish operation and accelerated component wear. A simple solution is to regularly inspect the tracks and remove any debris or dirt, followed by a gentle wipe with a clean cloth. In the case of rag top sliders, always keep the vehicle roof clean and waxed. Most manufacturers recommend mild detergent and occasional application of good quality all weather vinyl dressing. Note that in the case of any motor driven sunroof, follow the manufacturers' instructions for lubricating the tracks and drive system - and it is highly recommended that the sunroof gets serviced at regular intervals by a professional. Now get out there and pop your top!
  2. *sic

    auckland v8's

    stolen from another forum, still cracks me up though
  3. *sic

    Eminem - Encore

    totally deleted.any more off topics comments are going to be deleted. you all have been warned
  4. bro you get it wrong, its "i could walk towards you and jab you twice in the face for a set up to spinning heel you"..............but i dont do that because i respect that you don't want to get hit!...yea
  5. i think we are actually classed as a third world country now... or on the fringe of it as we speak.
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    Eminem - Encore

    ugg. this topic is about thoughts on EMINEM and his new album, not to say he is the greatest artist to fall out of a lady, ffs people get over this bs about pop, just manufactured etc etc.. go have a masty. i personally have enjoyed this new album more each time i listen to it, full of clever rhymes and solid lyrically, and some crack up beats. oh and for metal, nothing gets more hardout than "Anal c**t" seriously they dont get much more hardcore than that, the name even makes me want to punch someone in the face. :mosh: eminem is so on par with anal c**t right now. f**kers
  7. *sic

    F/S: E36 325i

    yea it was a toss up between who would suit it more, but then dave came on top because he has those pink tite pants... and gus you dont even wear pants... back to the topic we go!
  8. lol, get out to go over to beat some dick for crashing into you and his nuts are on fire..sh*t i would just laugh!
  9. Yup, I have a piece of insulated wire that I use to reset mine. Put each end of the wire into the right place, turn the car on for 5 seconds...and woohoo, all reset.Mine is an E30 though, but I imagine that an E36 would be no differant. As for taking it to a specialist BMW mechanic for pure servicing...garbage, just take it to any reliable mechanic. Cheers that rocks, i love it, ahh new zealand, where would we be without the coat hanger?but g unit you have moved to higher quality tools "insulated wire".. sounds to high tek to me.
  10. *sic

    Suppose I should share

    nice work, now you can get donw to driving how it should be
  11. *sic

    F/S: E36 325i

    on topic ladies, go the pink! lose the lights and put a blow up doll in and im sure Dave will by it
  12. *sic

    M3 vs Evo

    for the recordhe says rear "werd"for the record that is.
  13. *sic

    Ferrari ???

    I 100% agree with you Carl.Porsche in my opinion is number 1 too. Cheers nah not my flavour, but yea definatly up there, i mean i wouldnt kick a carrera gt out my garage!!styling of ferrari is the win though personally
  14. *sic

    Eminem - Encore

    ugg. all just follow what others say. he has been around and working it for so freaken long and only now that he has made it people are all like "oh hes just a marketing ploy"... why does my head scream BS. seriously, read a little about him and then make claims. if you dont like it cool, i dont expect people to and i hope they form their own opinion on it, not just "oh nah aye, hes way pop, im way more wu tang clan y0, str8 thuggin" yea well funny stories about them.... its funny how those people that dont know about music will always cite "pink floyd, the doors, ozzy, led zep (insert multiples of other old school bands / singers / rappers / musicians)" and again not know shite about them and what they stood for or what they even like about them, or sometimes never even heard them!..only that its just cool to say you like them... that screams pop to me. thats where you come along and ask why they like them... always makes for an uncomfortable time for these types of people.. sheep.
  15. *sic

    Eminem - Encore

    the album rocks, all those that dont agree, love men. and wtf is this crap that hes all manufactured and shite? wtf do you know any of his history??.. read up before you make judgement calls on his "pop" work. fools
  16. *sic

    Ferrari ???

    yea there are a few of those rep around now, was cool but really why not by the real thing?... end of the day its still an MR2
  17. if you can weld its not to hard, just get some bars to use as plates, and weld them to your stock rails, then fit the seats to the bars and mount them new seats to your car. simple. i get homy to weld up my seats each time, not to much of a mission
  18. *sic

    W32.Mota.B@mm Virus

    tisk tisk ollie, you and your internet bmw pron... that'll teach you
  19. er where was that quoted from, got the source? because it has been made illegal...
  20. *sic

    Motorway accident

    top notch, well its good he f**ked his car, cause he's a dick for driving it drunk, hope he gets no insurance and a big fine.
  21. but they sure as hell aint gonna say so!tell them to buy a new one as you should have one
  22. nah it is for real, sucks to be a smoker now huh? no smoking in bars, and now not even in your car.... skooled
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