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  4. Posted · Report reply

    Hi Guys,

    I'm looking for some recommendations on some tyres, I've currently got some 235/45/17 Michelin (Think they're Pilots).

    I don't really have a budget as such, generally I would spend about $200 or so per tyre on 16 inch car tyres on my old Mercedes S320, I'd like to spend about the same on these say about $250 per tyre. However I'd be willing to spend more per tyre if for example they would last longer I would be keen to at least look into Michelin or Continentals as the ones I've got on the car seem to be a good tyre, but I understand I'd be looking at around $500 per tyre or there abouts.

    I've got 4mm of tread all round at the moment so I don't need to buy anything right this minute but they will need replacing.

    I tend to lean towards mid range Goodyears or Dunlops but have never tried Bridgestone or Hankook so I'd be keen to hear what people are running at similar sizes and how they're handling and lasting. Noise is also an issue for me I really HATE excessively loud tyres.

    Thanks,

    Hi Nathan

    Welcome to the forums, there is a wealth of infornmation on here.

    I would also suggest you take a look at the Toyo range, in particular the Teo +, the C1S and the T1 Sport. All of these have the higher 97 load rating as Ron suggests.

    Not a lot of people know this but Toyo and Bridgestone own shares in each other and do quite a lot of technology sharing. Bridgestone recently released their "ecopia" range which is Toyo's technology, it has been on the Teo + for the last few years.

    The Teo + is probably the quietest tyre I have driven on, it is not an out and out performance tyre but I have just been away for the week and driven over 1200km on them on our family vehicle and they performed really well, even with the horrendous weather we have recently had.

    The C1S is more of a performance tyre and has been designed specifically for European vehicles, it would be my choice of tyre, as again it grips well, is nice and quiet and offers pretty good mileage

    cheers

    Johno

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    "the comments quoted above would suggest otherwise"

    Yes you could read it like that so I will clarify:

    1) Used imports should be banned

    2) Snow tyres should be Use specific and limited to winter

    3) New tyres that do not meet ( i.e. pass not just have the markings) an international standard should be excluded, this should take care of the nasties like Linglong, Kingstar etc.

    The Key comment was not the detail above but rather:

    " The Industry could show some leadership and self regulation and establish an acceptable minimum standard of product". This could include any or all of the above, the first being those dodgy used imports which would also eliminate quite a few of the snow tyres.

    That makes more sense :)

    Andy, you are right with your one size does not fit all comemnts, and it is a battle we continually have here. My guys here have been trained to ask a few key questions first like "what vehicle do you have?, How do you drive your car? what do you have on currently? Are you happy with your current trye?"

    Then you begin to give them some informed choice rather than just sell what you have in stock.

    However, I would say at least half of the time, a custy will ask "have you got anything cheaper?" Unfortunately the guy you spoke to at Tyre Shop X is right, you do have to meet their budget, and if you don't they will go and buy somewhere else.

    It can be a bit of a vicious circle, because if you do your best to sell them a suitable tyre for their vehicle and then they decide to run with the budget tyres the tyre shop ends up getting blamed for selling crap tyres! :wacko:

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    The Industry could set some standards , ban imported used tyres would be a good start , then follow it with the kingstars, linglongs and other nasties.

    I didn't make any comment about banning new import tyres - I made a comment about them meeting international standards, some of them mght even have the markings but arguably would not pass the real test.

    the comments quoted above would suggest otherwise :D

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    You paint the broader picture well, legislation and compliance , WOF etc, all fit in the picture as well

    BUT- you cannot then extrapolate this and say its all the fault of the WOF inspectors.

    The Industry could set some standards , ban imported used tyres would be a good start , then follow it with the kingstars, linglongs and other nasties.

    Government could ban snow tyres except during winter in mountain areas where they are intended to be used . They could also use one of the international standards as a minimum standard for new tyres but that would lose them votes so they wont.

    I think you may have misinterpreted me - I am not saying it is all the fault of WOF inspectors. I am saying that is where a good part of the problem starts, especially when you see first hand tyres passing a WOF that really have no right to. Too many of the general public think because a tyre passes a WOF or Compliance then it is safe. Unfortunately this is not the case.

    I agree re banning used imported tyres, there is some unbelievably bad stuff out there.

    New imported tyres will never be banned. All tyres are now imported so how do you distinguish one brand from another? Some Dunlop are made in Indonesia, some Goodyear are made in China, even some Bridgestone nowadays. It is all well and good saying "but 'name brand' have their own factories in China. I have just been over there and there are a lot of newer tyre factories which are not a "name brand" that use machines that are actually newer than some of the name brand factories. I actually spent a couple of hours in Hong Kong airport talking to a German man who does the maintenance on his machines in China. It was a very interesting chat and he was of the opinion that the Chinese have learnt very quickly how to make a reasonable tyre.

    Having imported Chinese tyres for the past 8 years, I have seen a huge leap forward in technology from where they were to now. I am not saying they are up to Pirelli standard for example, but they are not as bad as they used to be. Sure there are still some dodgy brands out there and unfortunately some unscrupulous people that import them just to make a buck.

    Education is the answer and as I mentioned previously, until we get rid of this fixation that "speed kills" we are never going to move forward.

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    With no minimum standard we have:

    - people driving on tyres way past their use by date - used imports & gone hard

    - tyres unsuitable for the conditions - cheap sh*t and ones that don't work in the wet

    - tyres unsuitable for the conditions - snow tyres in summer

    - tyres unsuitable for the vehicle - S and T rated and snow tyres on high performance cars

    - tyres unsuitable for the vehicle - Light Truck tyres on a mazda 121 or 88 load rated tyres on a 2 ton Ute

    I have to agree with you here Ron. Our tyre standards are pretty much non-existent and the WOF guys that do the checking are not much better. In fact they are probably the most at fault. There are regulations now that state:

    If you run winter tyres you must run 4 ( all though I do not understand why they are even legal here).

    Tyres on the same axle must have the same load rating (+/- 2) and they must have the same speed rating. In addition to this vehicles post 2005 must have the same type of tread pattern (asymmetric, directional etc) on all corners.

    However, the number of cars we see come through with new warrants that are in contradiction to those regulations is unbelievable . Just in the last week we have had people come in here where one tyre has been failed but the other tyre on the matching axle is actually worse. We have even had a BALD tyre pass compliance but it failed on a string repair. You have to blame the WOF guys for this, and assume they are either uneducated,being pushed to make monetary targets or just plain useless.?

    What is really needed is a complete overhaul and an education programme, but we seem to have this fixation on speed and don't actuallly look at what causes the crashes.

    People should buy the best tyre they can afford. In some cases they cannot afford a Pirelli or Conti unfortunately.

    Stay in MANTROL everyone over the holidays :D

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    Hi Aidan

    to be fair you are not really comparing apples with apples. We sell hundreds of the Altenzo tyres and we have not had any complaints. However , we do make sure people know that they are a touring tyre rather than a performance tyre like the Michelins, Conti's etc. If price is an issue for you then the Altenzo are probably the pick of the bunch.

    Was it absolutley bucketing down or was it light rain? What pressure are you running in them?

    (waits for Ron to wade in with his comments :rolleyes: )

  25. Posted · Edited by zenetti · Report reply

    If I was reading both listings, it is clear they were included in the auction and go with the motor. The Q&A on the 2nd auction indicates he is a deadbeat. One can only hope he never breeds ...

    ^This.

    Just print off the auction and show it to him. I don't really like your chances much. Looks like all you will be able to do is give him a red face.

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