charlie01 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 whats the best way to get as low as possible (legally) wth good handling not sure what springs etc to get? anyone done this with good results? many thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikj 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 there was a guy in the south island who put rocks in his boot!! ( was on the news last week!) Sorry just thought i would add some humour to this post?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjs 64 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Just cut da springs bol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve R 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 cant go wrong with H&Rs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie01 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 cant go wrong with H&Rs thanks, any idea of the best and cheapest place to get H + R springs? i am in auckland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve R 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 thanks, any idea of the best and cheapest place to get H + R springs? i am in auckland call keith ( the importer) springs are $400 i think Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lidistick 70 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 If you're going to do springs, do it once and do it right and get the shocks sorted too. Konis or Bilsteins. Cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenetti 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2007 H&R are still relatively soft - I threw a set in the bin after 3 months now running factory M3 springs on full M3 suspension way better and it can get over speed humps. also go staggered wheel set up and DECENT Tyres and geometry will make more difference than lowering on crap tyres and geometry.I think you missed the point 3 pedals, charliec wants as low as possible, and I think secondly wants reasonable handling.I would agree with lidistick, get new shocks, if and when you can afford it. It will make a world of difference, it also makes sense to change them while you have got the struts out and putting new springs in. There are heaps of springs out there but would personally go for H&R or Jamex. Dobi's are crap but will probably lower your car the most, but will handle the worst. As for Kings.... seems funny but the two worst spring makes are Aussie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PBOY23 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2007 if on a budjet and want to go as low as possible get shorten shocks an compress you factory springs then you can have as low as you want and it wont handle to bad jus my chip in Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMW012 1 Report post Posted October 13, 2007 I have had Jamex Super Lows in two different E36s and they both sat nice and low and handled perfect. Ild go for them... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted October 14, 2007 Legally on a E36 sedan is about 35mm in the front and about 55m in the back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUSPENSION 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2007 There's many experts when it comes to suspension and many different brands, what suits one person may not suit another (or a certain car, due to worn bushes, previous accident damage, tyre and wheel size,tyre brands and design and many other variables), if you use a good lowering spring but have bad shocks the ride can become worse due to the spring overpowering the standard worn out shock, if you use a cheap lowering spring (sometimes) they use a softer spring than the standard one to decrease the ride height (rather than using a good design which costs more money to make), also the manufacturing process can make a difference to the ride quality , if a spring is made using inconsistent methods sometimes you can end up with uneven spring rates (particularly over time) which can also cause the car to roll and pitch through corners. To answer the first question, measure the ride height of your car front and rear with a tape measure from the centre of the axle to the lip of the mudguard and work out where you'd like the vehicle to sit and minus the difference ie. -40mm front and -20mm rear, then check the ride height of the lowest point of the car 100mm at lowest structural point is as low as you can legally go (although this can sometimes be a grey area with some WOF testing), and then you can work out whether the lowering you wan't is realistic, also take into account that standard shock absorbers only have a certain amount of travel and if you go past this then you a gauranteed a harsh ride. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PBOY23 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2007 Trouble with lower the back more than the front is it will handle crap. The E36 likes being level raked slightly front down if you want good turn in and power out of corners that mite be my trouble my back is slightly lower than front Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westy 614 Report post Posted October 15, 2007 You cant go far before youre below 100mm. I believe you can get a cert to go lower but dont quote me. Sorry Pboy but your car is too low to handle well but its for show so all good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m_power 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) Your'e right missed the comment about as low as possible but it depends on what you mean by legally- as clearance on mine is only 105 mm off the lowest structural point. He also said good handling not reasonable The issue with the H&R's being too soft is the car moved about too much and would "plunge" going over speed humps Is it just in the e36 the H&R's are too soft? Because i have some in my car along with bilstien sport shocks and its a great combination, not too soft at all! Edited October 15, 2007 by E30-IS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 Can get a cert for being lower than 100mm. round about $400 Can pretty much go as low as you want as long as when a tyre is completly deflated the chassis doesn't hit the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PBOY23 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2007 You cant go far before youre below 100mm. I believe you can get a cert to go lower but dont quote me. Sorry Pboy but your car is too low to handle well but its for show so all good. im on legal limit it looks alot lower than it is , i wouldnt want it to be draging , be a pain in the ass an yeah it handles not the best due to a tight budjet an being young an dumb hahahahahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenetti 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 The issue with the H&R's being too soft is the car moved about too much and would "plunge" going over speed humps maybe you need to slow down over the speed humps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie01 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 thanks, i think by the sounds of things mabye jamex superlows (which i had in my 1996 Celica, handled well) in combination with new sports shocks? what are the best bang for buck in terms of good shocks? i appreciate the help guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 30 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 thanks, i think by the sounds of things mabye jamex superlows (which i had in my 1996 Celica, handled well) in combination with new sports shocks? what are the best bang for buck in terms of good shocks? i appreciate the help guys Avoid Jamex - I think you'll find most people here (who like their cars to handle) use H&R. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenetti 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2007 (edited) Avoid Jamex - I think you'll find most people here (who like their cars to handle) use H&R.that's a bit harsh - I know heaps of people who use Jamex and are very happy with them, we use them in alot of the cars we do, and have had no come backs or problems. Edited October 31, 2007 by zenetti Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablo23 1 Report post Posted October 31, 2007 yeah ive got jmex in mine and there fine for handling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites