international 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Hi guys, I saw a Pioneer headunit on Trademe, model number DEHP6950IB, I was wondering if this headunit would require any additional wiring or just simply plug and play. It was said that the headunit of BMWs were originally made by Alpine. Thus, would purchasing an Alpine headunit save me the complication of doing the custom wiring? Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jochen 4 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Hi guys, I saw a Pioneer headunit on Trademe, model number DEHP6950IB, I was wondering if this headunit would require any additional wiring or just simply plug and play. BMW uses a special custom BMW stereo connector. You can buy plug and play connector sets from Repco, to go from BMW to DIN, then from DIN to Pioneer. Then the stereo is plug and play. Note that the antenna plug is also the DIN standard, so you will need an antenna plug adapter, available from car stereo shops or Jaycar etc Jochen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
international 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 BMW uses a special custom BMW stereo connector. You can buy plug and play connector sets from Repco, to go from BMW to DIN, then from DIN to Pioneer. Then the stereo is plug and play. Note that the antenna plug is also the DIN standard, so you will need an antenna plug adapter, available from car stereo shops or Jaycar etc Jochen Thanks very much, can you please give me the heads up on DIN? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuen 16 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 A normal Alpine headunit (ie: aftermarket) will not plug and play into the BMW. It has a different connector. When Alpine made some headunits for BMW, they still used BMW's connectors. As Jochen said - you need harness adaptors. One from BMW to a general type plug (this may be the DIN Jochen is referring to) and another one from the plug to Pioneer. You should be able to get both from Supercheap or Repco for ~$40. And yes you'll probably need an antenna adaptor, shouldn't cost much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
international 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 A normal Alpine headunit (ie: aftermarket) will not plug and play into the BMW. It has a different connector. When Alpine made some headunits for BMW, they still used BMW's connectors. As Jochen said - you need harness adaptors. One from BMW to a general type plug (this may be the DIN Jochen is referring to) and another one from the plug to Pioneer. You should be able to get both from Supercheap or Repco for ~$40. And yes you'll probably need an antenna adaptor, shouldn't cost much. Thanks guys! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
isnowi 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2008 DIN is a standardised plug, DIN is the german standards organisation, similarily you may see ISO used to describe car stereos size, ISO is the international standards organisation, quite often based on DIN standards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted January 20, 2008 Come round and I'll wire it up for you... dont bother with the connectors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 1 Report post Posted January 20, 2008 Come round and I'll wire it up for you... dont bother with the connectors. why? using the connectors leaves it completley un-butchered and he can easily chuck the OEM headunit in if he comes to sell it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted January 20, 2008 Fair call, but for the time it takes ( 20 mins) and with the use of gizmos such as bullet connectors etc it would be just as easy to reconnect? Guess its a personal preferance...and just out of curiosity, are the plug and play looms massive? I know that the back of my heady has f**k all space with all the AV ins/outs etc etc so would not be an option for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danthaman01 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2008 yup the plug and play adaptors are tanks and take a bit to get it all to fit but thay are freakin simple and take no time to do http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-stereos/CD-players/auction-136856096.htm thats where i get my loom adaptors from really quick postage to overnight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 SERIES 93 Report post Posted January 20, 2008 why? using the connectors leaves it completley un-butchered and he can easily chuck the OEM headunit in if he comes to sell it.Agreed! Go for the connectors. Cost about $40 for the 2 of them and honestly takes about 5 mins to install. The only way to go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM WORLD 1283 Report post Posted January 20, 2008 repco and super cheap also sell them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 repco and super cheap also sell themdo they also do early bmw to later bmw ones....ie 1990 sony to cd43? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danthaman01 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 do they also do early bmw to later bmw ones....ie 1990 sony to cd43? hmmmm i havent heard of an adaptor? I had this problem though with my 92 coupe installing a new heady all we did was take the harness for the old stereo clip of the plug and then attacthed it to the new harness plug, simple as that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danthaman01 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) and go with that heady i brought mine when they first came out and the features are awesome and direct ipod control is great, drill a hole in the glovey and run you cable through there with a grommit from para or something is minta Edited January 21, 2008 by danthaman01 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 hmmmm i havent heard of an adaptor? I had this problem though with my 92 coupe installing a new heady all we did was take the harness for the old stereo clip of the plug and then attacthed it to the new harness plug, simple as that I beleive the bmw wiring changed in the early 90's so your pnout wuld be correct for the cd43 even if the plug wasnt quite right.My wiring will be wrong and go with that heady i brought mine when they first came out and the features are awesome and direct ipod control is great, drill a hole in the glovey and run you cable through there with a grommit from para or something is minta yes i have cd43 and DICE adapter,you can control ipod from cd43?Does ipod also charge from when pluged in ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danthaman01 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 yes i have cd43 and DICE adapter,you can control ipod from cd43?Does ipod also charge from when pluged in ? yup this heady has a USB 2.0 so put in the ipod jack and away you go charges while driving and when the battery is full kills the charge as not to fry the battery Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2008 Any one able to hell me with puting my head deck in my e36 not using adaptors, some one in auckland central? regards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foohey 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2008 what size are the speakers in a e36? and it easy enough to replace the small ones in the doors? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
international 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 Any one able to hell me with puting my head deck in my e36 not using adaptors, some one in auckland central? regards The adaptors costs around $20 for the wiring loom and radio conversion head at Appco. Adaptors really helps...took me 30 minutes to wire them up myself... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
international 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 what size are the speakers in a e36? and it easy enough to replace the small ones in the doors? 5.25" fronts and 4" rear... if you are looking replace your speakers, keep the current 4" on the rears... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
international 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 Just whipped on a Pioneer DEH-P7950UB headunit. Got a good deal at JB HiFi, a really nice headunit that is a seriously good buy for people willing to spend a bit more for a headunit. Features are great and the sound quality is superb. Even with the standard 6 speakers, the whole car sounds a lot better than expected. I would recommend people changing their standard headunits first before changing speakers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Braeden320 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 I would recommend people changing their standard headunits first before changing speakers. Good Call, Did this in the red e36 with a decent panasonic headunit and it made a surprising difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 I'll chuck your heady in for a doz PM Me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jpp 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2008 I'll chuck your heady in for a doz PM Me I'll chuck your heay in for a oz PM me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites