M3_Power 636 Report post Posted June 18, 2008 Finally they are here ... will post up photos once installed. Main reason for going with Alcon: - Bolt on application - NO SPACERS to clear the CSL fronts - Excellent range of pad choices - Monoblock design - huge 365mm discs can't wait !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gus 5 Report post Posted June 18, 2008 tasty! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuen 16 Report post Posted June 18, 2008 Nice They'll go well with Steel Grey. Doing the install yourself? And is it normal for BBKs to come with brake fluid? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Braeden320 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2008 Nice, but surely you didnt out drive the standard M3 ones on the road? Do you do a bit of track work? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiB 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2008 Wow, those are hot Is this for more power or just insane stopping power? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cale 36 Report post Posted June 18, 2008 Good stuff! Post up some pics when they're installed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drifty325i 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2008 Good god Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3_Power 636 Report post Posted June 19, 2008 (edited) Nice They'll go well with Steel Grey. Doing the install yourself? And is it normal for BBKs to come with brake fluid? Silver Grey actually - should look good on it I think. Was going to install it myself, but then I thought if I sell the car further down the road the purchasers would probably prefer to see a proper invoice from a reputable shop that installed the kit, so have decided to just pay someone to do it (whilst I give all the instructions and torque specs haha) - that and it makes the cert guy a bit more comfortable having someone 'qualified' installing it. Yes most BBK kits come with brake fluid, in this case Motul !!!! Nice, but surely you didnt out drive the standard M3 ones on the road? Do you do a bit of track work? I used to be a bit of a track junky .. but haven't had the time recently - bit hard to outdrive the standard brakes on the road especially with good pads - on the track it wouldn't be hard to overcook the stock item given enough laps. The M3 brakes whilst good it's still no comparison to a top aftermarket fix caliper - now I've got no excuse to use for going slow around a track. Wow, those are hot Is this for more power or just insane stopping power? Don't see how brakes can add to power, certainly add to stability and durability against fading on the track however - not to mention the bling haha ... Will post up some photos when fitted, should be sometime next week - getting everything organised so I can get my LVV cert updated at the sametime it's being installed and update with the insurance company my 'mod list' (I've sold it to them by telling them that the brakes increases safety haha) Edited June 19, 2008 by M3_Power Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creaver 55 Report post Posted June 19, 2008 I think what JiB means is, are you adding the brakes to help support more power. Nice setup . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiB 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2008 I think what JiB means is, are you adding the brakes to help support more power. Nice setup . Lol, yes that is what I meant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuen 16 Report post Posted June 19, 2008 Silver Grey actually - should look good on it I think. Was going to install it myself, but then I thought if I sell the car further down the road the purchasers would probably prefer to see a proper invoice from a reputable shop that installed the kit, so have decided to just pay someone to do it (whilst I give all the instructions and torque specs haha) - that and it makes the cert guy a bit more comfortable having someone 'qualified' installing it. Yes most BBK kits come with brake fluid, in this case Motul !!!! Will post up some photos when fitted, should be sometime next week - getting everything organised so I can get my LVV cert updated at the sametime it's being installed and update with the insurance company my 'mod list' (I've sold it to them by telling them that the brakes increases safety haha) Oops sorry. Yeah good idea to have something to show when/if it comes to resale. Is insurance going to up your premium for this safety mod? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1043 Report post Posted June 19, 2008 Wouldnt mind coming for a look .. Im looking at Alcons for mine and wouldnt mind seeing if theyll clear the works wheels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3_Power 636 Report post Posted June 22, 2008 I think what JiB means is, are you adding the brakes to help support more power. Nice setup . Ooops my bad ... Wouldnt mind coming for a look .. Im looking at Alcons for mine and wouldnt mind seeing if theyll clear the works wheels. let me know if you want to see the kit in person - it should be in by end of next week if all goes well. I've got Alcon templates that allows to you check clearances. The alcon has by far the lowest profile of all the BBK out there (even AP Racing) - what sort of offset are you running at the moment? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1043 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 The alcon has by far the lowest profile of all the BBK out there (even AP Racing) - what sort of offset are you running at the moment? Running 39 offset at the mo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3_Power 636 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 Running 39 offset at the mo. You should be fine. The CSL fronts are 8.5 wide +44ET and fit the alcons without spacers. Similarly with the AP kit. The brembos you have to run a 15mm spacer, and the stoptech I think 10mm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3_Power 636 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) Bit of an update ... Anyway actually was suppose to have the kit fitted a couple of weeks ago (had the car all booked in, up on the hoist, cert guy waiting ect ... ) .. but upon disassembling and test fitting I realised that Alcon had packaged the wrong disc for the set ... !!!!!!!! They had sent me Golf GTi discs rather than M3 ones ARrrghhhh (actually the disc was correct, the disc bell was incorrect) So after many emails and overseas phone calls to both USA and England, Alcon finally sent me the correct discs last week !! (they sent me a whole new assembly rather than just the bell, meaning that I get to keep a spare set of 365mm x 32mm discs Yippy !!!! - they also sent me a spare set of brake lines as they weren't 100% certain what they had sent me were the correct ones ... turns out that they were the correct ones - oh well no harm in having a spare set of brake lines !!!) So ... on with the photos .. Some teasers ... test fitting in my garage by myself ... Clearance ... not too bad - seems to clear even the largest of wheel weights ... So it's off to the shop and reorganising the cert guy .... : ) to be continued. Edited July 22, 2008 by M3_Power Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuen 16 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Looks great... and great support from Alcon too! I'm impressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg111 13 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) Looks good man, well done. Don't sopose we could see a pic of the whole car??? Edited July 22, 2008 by Greg111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3_Power 636 Report post Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) Updated photos (now with the whole car). Zero issues with wheel clearance. I ended up trimming the brake dust cover to accommodate the larger discs (had to trim off about 1/4 of the total surface area). I have to say I am absolutely blown away by how good these brakes are. Straight away the pedal feel, braking power and brake balance was more than apparant. The mechanic that fitted these brakes for me works for BMW NZ and is one of the head mechanics for Mini Challenge Race series here in NZ, Porsche GT3 Cup Racing and NZ V8 touring car championships. He was impressed with the build quality, fitment and overall performance of these brakes. The certification process was straight forward with little to no issues (I had to get longer wheel bolts given the slight increase in disc bell thickness - yes a strange one in my opinion, but the cert guy's God when it comes to getting certification in NZ and for the car to be road legal, so we tracked down some 5 series wheels bolts which were slightly longer and did the job required - I've actually also got some longer ones coming from Turnermotorsport also). As already stated in another post this kit is great in the sense that you don't need to run spacers on all OEM wheels, 18s, 19s, ZCP, CSL You also have great brake pad choices, all the following fits: Mintex MDB2607 Alcon 4497 Pagid U8028 SBS 3061 Ferodo FRP3081 The calipers themselves are 3.5kg each for those also wondering. Now on with the photos. If any of you want any specific shots of the kit, please let me know and I'll take them. And for those curious about clearance, here's two shots take from inside the wheel: Edited July 30, 2008 by M3_Power Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the stig 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2008 farken beutiful car! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 1 Report post Posted July 30, 2008 very very cool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1043 Report post Posted July 31, 2008 tits ... nice job there and the silver really suits the csl metallic grey paint Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuen 16 Report post Posted July 31, 2008 Looks great! What pattern is that on the rotors? Never seen it before. Probably a stupid question but do you save or gain weight in going to the BBK? Oh, and nice second car Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cale 36 Report post Posted July 31, 2008 Looks awesome, they're massive! Has to be an extra 20hp there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3_Power 636 Report post Posted July 31, 2008 Thanks for the positive comments fellas !! Appreciate it ! As for some of the questions. The pattern on the disc is called "scalloping" - it's a new design that's now utilised more and more on race applications. Serves the same purpose as slotted rotors but lot less noise. As for weight - believe it or not, going from 345mm discs to 365mm discs and single sliding calipers to monoblock 6 pistons actually saved weight (albeit slightly) !!! The calipers themselves only weigh 3.5kg each !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
