*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 (edited) Most of you know I stuffed my already sick auto trans on Friday. Well now is the time to go "3 Pedals" I'm going to document the whole process along with all the necessary pictures. I'll also post up all my costs for the project & document the hours necessary to do the complete conversion I'm sure most of you know my car 1997 E36 318Ti Mtech with M52B28 engine For those who dont...read this : http://www.bimmersport.co.nz/forums/index.php?showtopic=8117 My project will include: Removal of old trans, driveshaft, oil cooler & pipe work, computer & wiring harness, pedal box etc. Installing UUC flywheel, M5 clutch plate with M3 pressure plate, gearbox installation (S5D 250G), linkages with Z3 1.9 short shifter, driveshaft, wiring mods for reverse lights & starter, pedal box, clutch cylinders & pipework. Flywheel & clutch info: http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/ I will also be installing a medium case LSD If anyone thinks I have left anything out... let me know, I'm starting the project this week. Buying the conversion kit of Ray @ HELLBM and ordering the flywheel kit tomorrow from the States BTW: I'll be doing this probably a bit different to others that have done this. I'm going to drop engine, trans and front cross member out because I have the right gear to do so, and it makes the whole job so much easier to do properly.....more to follow Edited March 1, 2009 by *Glenn* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 (edited) Some links with good material : http://www.metricmechanic.com/pdfs/metric-...ial-booklet.pdf http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/revs.html http://mgt_sport.drivehq.com/index.htm http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/ http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_techtip/...check_valve.htm Note: If anyone has some good links to add, PM me with them and I'll add them to this list so that they are all in the same place. Edited March 10, 2009 by *Glenn* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sp8s 1 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 Looking forward to this. Like your other project I enjoy your straight up talk with no BS in the middle. Thanks for thinking of us lesser Mortals who dont have the initiative you so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 I should have done this when I did my original conversion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjay 8 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 I should have done this when I did my original conversion As should I when I blew my trans first time. Live and learn ay. Ill be eying yours very closely. Interesting to see how much work is actually required Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pennyfan 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Its nice to know you start doing it, looking forward to see the result. And with this experience, I hope you will be able to help mine in the furture. Edited March 2, 2009 by Penny Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Its nice to know you start doing it, looking forward to see the result. And with this experience, I hope you will be able to help mine in the furture. Yes I know... you keep threatening to come round and meet me and show me your car... whens that going to happen ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Update: Car at workshop and ready to strip Manual conversion kit ordered from Ray @ HELLBM ...awesome deal BS members only ($1250.oo) LSD ordered from Dave (Silverfox) UUC stage 1 M52 lightened flywheel (11lbs) and clutch pedal stop ordered from UUC coming on UPS Parts to order today from BMW: E36 M3 pressure plate, release bearing & spigot bearing E34 M5 clutch plate (sprung hub type) Z3 1.9 short shifter Master cylinder & slave cylinder (I want to use new) Gear lever boot & surround (different on a compact) M sport 5 speed gear knob Driveshaft coupling Output shaft and selector shaft seals New gearbox mounts New side seals and pinion seal for the medium case diff Note: I'll be adding all the part numbers for the parts later Also: If anyone has anything specific that they would like me to cover on this conversion....let me know THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A "BUDGET" CONVERSION Edited March 2, 2009 by *Glenn* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjay 8 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Final costing of parts plz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Final costing of parts plz I'm guessing around about $4000 for the whole conversion, however I did say it's not going to be a budget job. It'll probably cost me more, and thats without labour costs. We'll just have to see. All I can say at the moment is, its going to be done properly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Wow... ... just had an email from UUC... special deal.... huge discount Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pennyfan 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 Yes I know... you keep threatening to come round and meet me and show me your car... whens that going to happen ?? lol I am really sorry about that, having some personal problem recently. I am still trying to fit a poorly made CF hood properly, kind of ashame to show you my car. But I will meet you soon, just the matter of time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 Ouch !!! $645.71 + Gst For a E34 3.6 M5 clutch plate...$308.31 +Gst for a E36 3.2 M3 pressure plate $499 US$ + freight + Gst at customs for the UUC stage1 flywheel I'll post part numbers and prices tomorrow.. scarey I've been able to negotiate better pricing on what I need, however I'll only be posting retail prices. My buying prices are confidential...... more to follow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CamB 48 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) About $2,000 eh? Ouch. That price for the clutch plate is crap (on BMW's part). There is no reason it should be so high. It's just a clutch and 240mm clutches that hold that kind of torque are common enough (before "M"-tax). Edited March 3, 2009 by CamB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 About $2,000 eh? Ouch. That price for the clutch plate is crap (on BMW's part). There is no reason it should be so high. It's just a clutch and 240mm clutches that hold that kind of torque are common enough (before "M"-tax). B&T quoted me $700 +Gst + freight for a Sachs one out of Aussie. That was trade price Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve R 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 prices arent that scary when your not paying retail that fly wheel is pricey though! bet you wish you got that 3 months ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) prices arent that scary when your not paying retail that fly wheel is pricey though! bet you wish you got that 3 months agoTell me... I got a real good deal though. Thats retail. Dual Mass is $1900 NZ $ +Gst.. without a clutch kit Edited March 3, 2009 by *Glenn* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CamB 48 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 Obviously not particularly suited for street use, but I got a 6 puck unsprung for the turbo M10 (228mm clutch and modified pressure plate), with throwout bearing, for about $700 incl GST. Would also work on an M20 flywheel. I dunno - maybe I am being too harsh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) If anyone wants to make enquiries to UUC Motorwerks in the US....email [email protected] But please... no friggen time wasters... Real nice guy to deal with and very helpful... have a good look at their performance products and read the available material and info. I might also add that his email addy is not publicised. http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/ Edited March 3, 2009 by *Glenn* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) I dunno - maybe I am being too harsh. Not at all... any constructive criticism is appreciated. Some people wont be able to financially afford to do this properly. This. however is how I'm going to do it. I'm only going to do it as I see it .... do it once ....properly Edited March 3, 2009 by *Glenn* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CamB 48 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) Definitely wasn't criticising you, or your choices! Only criticising BMW, and their parts pricing. Mostly because I am still smarting from buying a nylon cup (#9) to go at the bottom of one of the linkages on my tii for $30 (should be about $5). I bought it over a year ago. Still bearing that grudge. Edited March 3, 2009 by CamB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) Costs for doing this conversion: See attached Excell sheet Note: These prices are retail excl Gst These costs will probably vary. However it gives an indication for those interested Manual_conversion_costs.doc Edit: dont take all these part # as the final part number.. some of the parts were supplied wrong. I'll up date this as soon as its sorted. Edited March 18, 2009 by *Glenn* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creaver 55 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 Bahaha, loving the "My costs" section Glenn . Awesome project thread...will be watching! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 The flywheel from the USA and the AG parts on order should all be here next week. Conversion kit from Ray will be here tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve R 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2009 Which gear knob are you getting Glenn? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
