Wom 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2009 http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2709...im-turns-eight/ "Baby Kahu's snatcher is about to be freed from prison, despite refusing to take responsibility for his crime that shocked a nation. Terence Traynor failed to win his freedom at every Parole Board hearing during his seven years in prison, however, he must now be freed by law, having served two-thirds of his 11-year sentence." The part I don't get is that, by law, he has to be released because he's served 2/3's of his sentence? Um isn't the point of a sentence is that the prisoner stays in prison for the term of the sentence, unless he / she has proven to a parole board that they can be safely released early? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laadeelaa 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2009 It's sad. People can literally get away with murder in NZ. The law system is a joke here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shady 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2009 Yep. NZ needs to "harden the f--k up!" Our Justice, is a JOKE. No other country in the world (well at leased Civilized Country) has such a stupid, useless system. The Justice system shows Justice to the Crim, and shows Disrespect to the Victim. I thought Keyes was going to revise the Law, which I guess was all s--t. Someone go shoot him! You'd be out in 7years! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CamB 48 Report post Posted July 31, 2009 We have a top 5 incarceration rate in the OECD (we may actually be top 3 - can't find the stat). On that basis, you could argue we lock up too many people and for too long, in particular since I believe we have less crime than average. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2079 Report post Posted August 1, 2009 I am surprised you are bringing up a case where the guy caused no harm to the public or the person he kidnapped. Yet just a few weeks ago there was an article about a person who is now walking free after gunning down and killing 3 or 4 people and wounding another 3 or 4. He was smoking Weed when he did this so got away with being under the influence and deemed crazy. He spent a short amount of time in an asylum. Now walks the streets of Lower Hutt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRTDVL 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2009 nz needs the 3 strikes system like in the states... the guy that broke into John Key's place had 151 previous convictions! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shady 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2009 They need to make LIFE=LIFE not 25yrs & Parole at 17! And no such thing as "crazy"...if thats the case, then every criminal can get off murder for that! As for small things such as- Theift, Fraud, Driving, Drugs, Vandalism, Arson, Minor Assault etc should be "HOME DETENTION" (depending how serious, minimum 3mths maximum 1year). And- Murder, Manslaughter, M.A.F, Major Assualt, etc should be "PRISON TIME" (minimum 3mths & manximum LIFE depending how serious). I reckon this would sort the REAL BAD from the MINOR. Sending someone to Jail for growing Weed and making them live with hardcore killers & gangsters, they just gonna come out worst than they were when they went in! Let the killers live with killers and the druggies locked up at Home! If I was Prime Minister (haha that will never happen) thats how I would make it. Gaurantee be a better Country with a System like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
320guy 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2009 arson is minor? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark247 39 Report post Posted August 1, 2009 As for small things such as- Theift, Fraud, Driving, Drugs, Vandalism, Arson, Minor Assault etc should be "HOME DETENTION" (depending how serious, minimum 3mths maximum 1year). So if someone burnt down your place at night, and you had luckly just left 2 minutes earlier, you would be fine with them getting a year in prison? What about if someone stole your life savings, 1 year in prison? Come on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
my_e36 43 Report post Posted August 1, 2009 Bring back capital sentence (as in China) and ass-whooping (true! as in Singapore). That would stop them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrantiC Report post Posted August 2, 2009 Bring back the electric chair! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shady 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2009 Bring back the electric chair! F--king a! Or injection, Hanging, lol. Nah the EC is more painful! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted August 2, 2009 Eye for an Eye I say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shady 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2009 Eye for an Eye I say. Yep, agree. But in some cases it wont work. EG: "you raped my sister, Im going to rape yours". Or "you beatup my mum, I beat up yours". Dont sound right. So would have to be "you raped my sister, I ram a broomstick up your a$$". lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e30plz 1 Report post Posted August 2, 2009 So would have to be "you raped my sister, you get jailed for life".This. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shady 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2009 This. Yes! But I was referring to the - eye for an eye, statement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wom 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 It was this part that I was more curious about - "he must now be freed by law, having served two-thirds of his 11-year sentence" I don't understand why there is a law that states that you must be freed after serving 2/3's of a sentence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 Should be Law that a pile of BMW enthusiasts are allowed to re-write all the laws? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e30plz 1 Report post Posted August 3, 2009 ^ Yes. I don't understand why there is a law that states that you must be freed after serving 2/3's of a sentence.What bullshit, Should have to serve the full sentence not 2/3's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
