323e30 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 My e34 wagon is now finally panel beated and is pretty much ready for paint but im not sure what kind of paint type is best to use. Everyone seems to say 2k but its expensive and needs to be baked and I have never really heard a reason why its better than acrylic or enamel lacquers ? basically im at the stage where i need to lay a primer coat on the whole car ( which i plan to do myself ) but cant do this till i decide what type of final base coat to use otherwise it may react. anyone here on the pro side of painting, or clued up on this type of stuff? planning to go Gloss black all over for the final coat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westy 614 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 Basically 2k is harder. Harder to scratch, harder to chip, harder to spray etc. Acrylic lacquer is softer, especially in the sun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 But... we dont get sun in Auckland anymore Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
323e30 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 was quoted for 2k paint around the 5000$ mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellicose 9 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 Use a 2pack primer no matter what is used for topcoat. This will ensure NO sinkback/shrinking of repaired areas, especially since you want it black. Trailer car down to me Mike, will beat any quotes you get by far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
323e30 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 Use a 2pack primer no matter what is used for topcoat. This will ensure NO sinkback/shrinking of repaired areas, especially since you want it black. Trailer car down to me Mike, will beat any quotes you get by far. could be a plan if i have no luck up here. Does 2k primer need to be baked aswel? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmw335i 16 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 could be a plan if i have no luck up here. Does 2k primer need to be baked aswel? 2k all the way. i can ask my dad if he will paint 4 you? probly not but worth a try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellicose 9 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 Mike, no the primer does not have to be baked, in fact 2 pack paint does not HAVE to be baked despite what people will tell you. 2 pack relies on a chemical process to dry hence the hardener. I use 2 pack primers because of the afore mentioned reasons, but i use basecoat/clearcoat for the colours no matter weather solid/metallic/pearl colour. 2 pack paints don't give you the finish of COB (clear over base) and always look dull compared with COB when side by side. PS: 2K is a brand name and not an all encommpasing name for 2 pack products. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
323e30 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 PS: 2K is a brand name and not an all encommpasing name for 2 pack products.Haha just goes to show how little i know.ok sweet , ill get onto sorting a primer coat and blocking the entire car so that all it needs is the last coat pretty much. Ive painted before a few times but have never really got the shine ive been after so def dont want to do the final coat myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellicose 9 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 Haha just goes to show how little i know. ok sweet , ill get onto sorting a primer coat and blocking the entire car so that all it needs is the last coat pretty much. Ive painted before a few times but have never really got the shine ive been after so def dont want to do the final coat myself Yeah mate, don't be tempted to sand by hand, block everything. It's a PITA but the result is noticable lol. PM me if ya get stuck with anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellicose 9 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 This is a coffee table i did, it's black COB. Would be very hard to get a reflection like that from 2pack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
323e30 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 Yeah mate, don't be tempted to sand by hand, block everything. It's a PITA but the result is noticable lol. PM me if ya get stuck with anything. Thanks for the info , pm me a quote to drop on the paint ill be getting the rest sorted over the next couple of weeks hopefully. thats exactly the type of shine im after ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c.robertson00 11 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 +1 for base coat and clears. My dad and I have painted a few cars this way and it comes out mint and a light wet sand with 2000 grit and a polish with a buffer afterwards gives a mirror shine. You just have to be carefull around the sharp edges. A variable speed buffer is good for this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westy 614 Report post Posted October 15, 2009 Mike, no the primer does not have to be baked, in fact 2 pack paint does not HAVE to be baked despite what people will tell you. 2 pack relies on a chemical process to dry hence the hardener. I use 2 pack primers because of the afore mentioned reasons, but i use basecoat/clearcoat for the colours no matter weather solid/metallic/pearl colour. 2 pack paints don't give you the finish of COB (clear over base) and always look dull compared with COB when side by side. PS: 2K is a brand name and not an all encommpasing name for 2 pack products. When you refer to clear over base, what type of paint are you referring to? An Acrylic Lacquer or.... I've only ever used the Acrylic Lacquers before with clear over the top. Find it easy to spray, flat and polish (as long as its not too cold ha). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites