CaM 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2005 How common are they???? don't see many round except for late model ones, am interested in how many e30s e28s e34s etc there are around..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravo 35 Report post Posted February 17, 2005 No there aren't many. A year or two ago when they got the new 5-er diesel in, the BMW spokesperson said to expect a slow increase of diesel models in NZ. They previously hadn't been brought in as NZers perceived diesels to be smelly, noisy and dirty and they didn't sell. Also, the new diesels couldn't run very well on our high-sulphur diesel. But, with the new diesel, and a change in peoples perceptions, expect an increase in diesel models hitting our shores. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carl 3 Report post Posted February 17, 2005 (edited) BMW released E42 320 and 330 diesels which both have comparably better stats than their petrol counterparts. You can't spot them that easily unless you see the badge on the back which should have a "d" in it, okay - most diesel stock exhausts point down for some odd reason, like DTM tips flipped vertically. I wouldn't mind having the 330"d", it's got some really wicked torque stats and is bloody ecocomical all things considered. E: Actually, they're releasing a 120d diesel here which has better stats than the 120i petrol. That would be the cheapest bmw runabout on the market. Edited February 18, 2005 by ///Carl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spargo Report post Posted February 17, 2005 Whats this tdi crap? They're known as d ----> 330d / 330cd / 530d / 520d / etc I really really want the diesel motor out of the 740d. Twin turbo 3.5 Yeee Haaa! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carl 3 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 There, fixed, wasn't too sure on the badges but knew they had d's in them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petone 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 i have seen a E36 320tds? can someone explain the badge for me? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carl 3 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 Yes, i'm not to sure with the naming either as i'm POSITIVE i've seen a 320tdi Maybe Sam is a little off today, Sam??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spargo Report post Posted February 18, 2005 Changed with E29 / E46 diesels. E30 / E36 were known as td, and the sportier ones were tds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carl 3 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 Changed with E29 / E46 diesels. E30 / E36 were known as td, and the sportier ones were tds. I've never seen an E30 diesel, did they never release these in NZ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaM 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 I would so hit a e34 turbo diesel..... would rule with a KKKturbo running some more boost.... diesels rule. If i was buying a new bmw I would so buy that diesel cabby Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmwsparkle 3 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 e34 diesals seem fairly common, should jump on one of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMW POWER 2 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 i have seen a E36 320tds? can someone explain the badge for me? T = TurboD = Diesel S = Sport Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 i havent noticed too many e 34 diesels,there are three versions,i would think they would ALL be 2nd hand imports 524td '88-'92 M21 6 - 2443cc 192 km/h 12.9 sec 114hp / 115bhp 162ft.lbs@2400 Rpm 20:1 525td '93-'95 M51 6 - 2499cc 194 km/h 12.9 sec 114hp / 115bhp 181ft.lbs@2200 Rpm 22:1 525tds '91-'95 M51 6 - 2499cc 207 km/h 11.0 sec 141hp / 143bhp 192ft.lbs@2200 Rpm 22:1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaM 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 Mean, would only buy one thats really mint....cant see engine parts being cheap at all Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMW POWER 2 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 If i was buying a new bmw I would so buy that diesel cabby My listNew M5 E39 M5 E46 M3 E61 645ci E30 M3 E36 M3 X5 4.4 V8 Diesel maybe I don't seem to like convertibles Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaM 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 I don't like cabbys either, but I'd grab the diesel over the petrol model..... Diesels aren't slow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMW POWER 2 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 Turbo diesel Mmmm I was reading that the new 1 series diesels have about a second difference in a standing 1-100 than a petrol Weird. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaM 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 I know, My van's turbo diesel and it's hard to go through town without a lady hanging off every possible foothold on it, lucky it's got all that torque to keep me moving, dire consequences could be had should I come to a halt..... maybe if i keep boosting hard instead of pimpin it then they won't be able to latch on, being a diesel I can't have a loosely tensioned blow off valve to ward them off,so speed is a must, but then they might follow me in a ford festiva hatch with "funtop" roof, and jump on the back, maybe if I attach a thornbush on the back they won't be able to do it, that's what I'll do, cool :thumb: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1044 Report post Posted February 18, 2005 Due to the insanelly high compression .. Diesels have a lot more torque than the petrol motor ... would make sense that its does a standing start faster ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravo 35 Report post Posted February 19, 2005 Since I cannot afford a new BMW I don't have this problem, but i would want to watch these new common rail diesels carefully as they are not old enough to see if they are durable. Most of the high performance diesels have alloy blocks instead of cast steel blocks. The old diesels had these to withstand the high compression etc, the new ones may not be as strong, and they are subject to even more forces as they are pushed as hard as they can be to get the performance. So, hopefully by the time I can afford one they have been tried and tested, because if they are durable, I would definately buy the diesel over the petrol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaM 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2005 Common rail is sweet, Exactly the same principal as efi..... it's proven in petrol efi cars 20 odd years ago. Alloy diesels I don't think would be a problem, they've got away with alloy heads on diesels for quite a while now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravo 35 Report post Posted February 19, 2005 Oh I'm sure you're right, I just don't want to be the guinea pig. Current diesels are often capable of doing over a million kms before requiring a rebuild. I wonder if the new ones will too. They rev way harder, and so that equals more wear etc. Will be interesting to see how they go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcel 323Ti 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2005 In the Auto Motor und Sport (couple of months ago) was a test between the e60 545i and the e60 535d. Guess who teached who a lesson? I had a white e30 324d (without a turbo) in 1991. The car sounds simmilar to a Nissan Patrol 2.8 Turbodiesel. yes, like a truck. awesome In europe they also had a 524d, but i never understood what the slogan Freude am Fahren had to do with this car. They needed a calender to count 0>100 times Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravo 35 Report post Posted February 19, 2005 but i never understood what the slogan Freude am Fahren had to do with this car. They needed a calender to count 0>100 times roflmao! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMW POWER 2 Report post Posted February 20, 2005 Man the media designers at BMW need a boot in the ass..... Nothing in their brochures makes sense sh*t like: Many ideas leave their mark. Only a few transcend their age Don't forget to turn the page Always submit to temptation . You never know if you'll get a second chance I copied this from the 645i sales brochure i got sent from Team McMillan, i must give credit to the designers as well though, because it is all very well set out and nice and there is actually real paint in the brochures. They are kind of obsessed with water thoguh, like just about every page has sea or rivers or something it, weird cos i always thought (most) cars drive on land. It also says in the brochure "Freud am Fahren - Enjoying life and movement That makes sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
