antil33t 90 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 1 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 A friend of mine got diversion when he crashed his car, careless or reckless driving I think. despite witnesses saying how fast he was driving before he crashed. that was a 5 years ago so things might have changed since then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonomayo 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 Dont expect much change out of a grand all up mate. Silly mistake, as I know, but they crack down hard. No real way of getting out of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark247 38 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 (edited) Contrary to popular belief, it seems most people on here think you are simply f***ed, there is a way to keep your license, if you are not a complete flatpeak wearing idiot. ( not saying you are ) If you are serious about fighting it, get a lawyer. I got done for sustained loss of traction when i was 18, the cop literally came around the corner as I was arking it up and caught me in the middle of it, and I got a lawyer and got the charge let down to careless driving from sustained loss of traction. Then I got diversion with the careless driving. Sustained loss of traction I guess would be treated in a simular way street racing, so give it a shot if you are that desperate. I basically just tried to come across as not the usual idiot, i'm a uni student, i have goals in life other than just leaving black lines on the street, wanted to go place, blah blah, and in the end I think the lawyer just spoke to the police prosecutor and got me on diversion. I didn't even have to step foot in the court. She called me one day and just gave me the time I had to go to the diversion office. It cost me about $600, but I got totally let off. I think it was $600 well spent too, because I needed my license. This happened in Tauranga too, I cant remember the name of the lawyer, but the office was really close to the court. Just around the corner. If you are interested, I could possibly find the address. Just my 2c. Edited January 29, 2011 by mark247 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant 4 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 Contrary to popular belief, it seems most people on here think you are simply f***ed, there is a way to keep your license, if you are not a complete flatpeak wearing idiot. ( not saying you are ) If you are serious about fighting it, get a lawyer. I got done for sustained loss of traction when i was 18, the cop literally came around the corner as I was arking it up and caught me in the middle of it, and I got a lawyer and got the charge let down to careless driving from sustained loss of traction. Then I got diversion with the careless driving. Sustained loss of traction I guess would be treated in a simular way street racing, so give it a shot if you are that desperate. I basically just tried to come across as not the usual idiot, i'm a uni student, i have goals in life other than just leaving black lines on the street, wanted to go place, blah blah, and in the end I think the lawyer just spoke to the police prosecutor and got me on diversion. I didn't even have to step foot in the court. She called me one day and just gave me the time I had to go to the diversion office. It cost me about $600, but I got totally let off. I think it was $600 well spent too, because I needed my license. This happened in Tauranga too, I cant remember the name of the lawyer, but the office was really close to the court. Just around the corner. If you are interested, I could possibly find the address. Just my 2c. I agree, I think that Mark has the best approach here, and if I were in your shoes would follow this course of action too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingkarl 136 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Went to court today. I decided to plead guilty. I have been fined $400 + $130 court costs + $50 for some conviction levy. Impound fees were $400 so the grand total is $980. I have lost my licence for 6 months and the prosecutor added on some bullshit clause that means I cannot have any interest in a car for the next 12 months. Which basically means I cannot own one. This seems like a waste of time as the duty solicitor pointed out, as I will just transfer ownership to my old man. The kid in front of me who got done for drink driving was suspended for 6 months but faced fewer fines than me, hmmm. On a side note, that cock Hone Harawira was at court in support of his bros who were arrested over their interference with Petrobras last week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellicose 9 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Although i do not like you what you got is pretty harsh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Top Secret 2 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 TBH makes me glad I've gotten away with some of the sh*t I have. Sucks to hear. Oh well, Bus life Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark247 38 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 That sucks. I think $500 on a lawyer would of been well spent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 The kid in front of me who got done for drink driving was suspended for 6 months but faced fewer fines than me, hmmm. The guy that wrote my car off being a f**king moron got a $150 buck fine for "failure to give way" Unimpressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Side noteish, but did anyone else see drug bust or whatever it is called. The wanker selling all that pot got a $400 fine and 6 months supervision. I got more fines than that for driving a passenger around after 10pm when I had my restricted. The whole system is f**ked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Matt_ 42 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Some cop show the other night...a dude got pulled up for running a red light (he was in a hurry for a feed), he gave his dads info to the cops because he didn't hold a license and so the cop let his mate drive the car home with a stern warning. I couldn't believe it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
318Touring 40 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 Gents (and ladies if any), The message is 'speed kills'. It's very politically incorrect to drive above the speed limit and it's not good for the environment. Think about the forest and the birds and the dolphins and whatever else needs saving. BTW, I'm being sarcastic - if you're going to drive above the limit, do it safely, know your own ability, drive to the condition and lastly, get some protection! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingkarl 136 Report post Posted April 29, 2011 That sucks. I think $500 on a lawyer would of been well spent. My mate got a lawyer and I also spoke to him. Couldn't really do a lot for us unfortunately. The lawyer met with the prosecutor on Tuesday and the police were willing to drop the charge to dangerous driving in exchange for a guilty plea, but no more. The cop we encountered is notoriously strict, I heard he once prosecuted his own son for a traffic offence. Dangerous driving carries 6 months suspension + same sort of fines. Only advantage is if you get busted for boy racer offences successive times your car will not be crushed. Here's a LOLworthy article featuring the cop who nabbed us. http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/local/ne...sights/3947732/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forrest 35 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 Dangerous driving carries 6 months suspension + same sort of fines. Are you sure this is right? or does it depend on the circumstance? I got charged with dangerous driving when I wrote my old E30 off after failing to stop, only got 30 demerits and a decent 400/500$ fine, no suspension. Bad luck on the charge man, live and learn, could have been a lot worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Braeden320 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) "No sooner than he points out a speed camera mounted in a silver van up ahead, one unfortunate motorist makes the mistake of flashing his headlights to oncoming vehicles. The green ute pulls to the side of the road the moment Mr Polglase turns and snaps on the mufti Holden's lights and sirens. He reaches for his faded leather logbook, steps out, and strolls up to the driver's window. It turns out the driver had been flashed himself and he says he was simply returning the favour. But as far as Mr Polglase is concerned, what's often called the "unwritten rule of the road" is no different to obstructing a police officer - an offence which can carry three months imprisonment or a $4000 fine." Hmm I could see that standing up in court...Not. Edited April 30, 2011 by braeden. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtech1e30 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 How about this, right at the end of that article On the way back down the ranges, a green Mazda stationwagon begins tailgating us, the driver painfully unaware just who she is following. Mr Polglase (the Police officer) glances in the rear vision mirror and quickly loses patience. The lights and sirens go on - and this driver has just made an incredibly stupid blunder. A quick check on the driver and her vehicle finds the offence of following too closely will be the least of her problems. The vehicle's warrant of fitness has expired. A $200 fine. Its registration has, too. Another $200. The number plate has been illegally swapped over from a Ford Escort. $150. The car will need to be pink-stickered. $600. But worst of all, the driver, a social worker from Huntly, has only a learner's driver licence - and her children, aged 14 and 3, are sitting in the back. Puffing nervously on a cigarette and complaining down her cellphone about the predicament, the visibly upset driver lashes out at Mr Polglase: "You're making me lose my faith in the police." But the driver, who it's found is not the owner of the stationwagon, is herself let go lightly with a fine of about $500. Say what? Someone gets pulled over for flashing their lights while this other person is endangering multiple lives and gets off with only a $500 fine? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) Gents (and ladies if any), The message is 'speed kills'. It's very politically incorrect to drive above the speed limit and it's not good for the environment. Think about the forest and the birds and the dolphins and whatever else needs saving. BTW, I'm being sarcastic - if you're going to drive above the limit, do it safely, know your own ability, drive to the condition and lastly, get some protection! Agreed, and also never, never admit anything. I presume that he got you with the Hawke rader as he came the other way, so no way of knowing which one of you was doing the the speed. Exploit any doubt. Edited April 30, 2011 by David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mash 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 Side noteish, but did anyone else see drug bust or whatever it is called. The wanker selling all that pot got a $400 fine and 6 months supervision. I got more fines than that for driving a passenger around after 10pm when I had my restricted. The whole system is f**ked. Speeding kills, pot doesn't? I think you got what you deserve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingkarl 136 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 Are you sure this is right? or does it depend on the circumstance? I got charged with dangerous driving when I wrote my old E30 off after failing to stop, only got 30 demerits and a decent 400/500$ fine, no suspension. Bad luck on the charge man, live and learn, could have been a lot worse. Live and learn indeed. I think it must depend on the circumstances. I think in my case the cops wanted to throw the book at me somewhat so would have pushed for 6 month suspension to accompany my dangerous driving charge in court; had I gone with that deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polley 916 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 "No sooner than he points out a speed camera mounted in a silver van up ahead, one unfortunate motorist makes the mistake of flashing his headlights to oncoming vehicles. The green ute pulls to the side of the road the moment Mr Polglase turns and snaps on the mufti Holden's lights and sirens. He reaches for his faded leather logbook, steps out, and strolls up to the driver's window. It turns out the driver had been flashed himself and he says he was simply returning the favour. But as far as Mr Polglase is concerned, what's often called the "unwritten rule of the road" is no different to obstructing a police officer - an offence which can carry three months imprisonment or a $4000 fine." Hmm I could see that standing up in court...Not. Ahahaha that was me in the green ute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted May 1, 2011 I don't see how flashing is obstruction. You flash someone. they slow down so they don't get caught. isn't slowing down what the police want? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg111 13 Report post Posted May 1, 2011 No, revenue is what they want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polley 916 Report post Posted May 1, 2011 I don't see how flashing is obstruction. You flash someone. they slow down so they don't get caught. isn't slowing down what the police want? It's obstructing them from doing their job. People flash lights, people slow down for camera, then speed off and the poor policees cant nab anyone for speeding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dickhead 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2011 I think you should pay your mates fines aswell, here's a message for all, if in trouble with police SAY NOTHING, that's right, NOTHING. Don't explain yourself, don't water down what you were doing. Let a lawyer do that later on. Why did you tell on your mate? Did you expect leniency? It certainly wasn't going to help either of you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
