hybrid 1042 Report post Posted March 11, 2012 Repost ... but a worthy one Enjoy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1042 Report post Posted March 11, 2012 And more Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M5V8 337 Report post Posted March 11, 2012 man why. why don't we still have a formula like this. 800kg min 4 cly non turbo based on min 500 production cars 2wd throw in 1400kg min 4 cly turbo based on min 500 production cars 2wd & 1650kg 4 cly turbo based on min 500 production cars 4wd not only do we get some cool racing but there's also some race proven limited edition road rockets for us to buy. Just like the old days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1042 Report post Posted March 11, 2012 I think alot has to do with a cars popularity. The new 3 series for example in its road form would make a terrible touring car by todays standards. Its big and heavy. Maybe if BMW used a 1 series and other manufactures used other similar sized cars. The 1 series isnt however their market focus and mass seller. The 3 series still holds that crown. I would say other car manufactures have the same issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg111 13 Report post Posted March 12, 2012 Didn't even realise we still had a WTCC, no coverage here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30-323ti 66 Report post Posted March 12, 2012 I think alot has to do with a cars popularity. The new 3 series for example in its road form would make a terrible touring car by todays standards. Its big and heavy. Maybe if BMW used a 1 series and other manufactures used other similar sized cars. The 1 series isnt however their market focus and mass seller. The 3 series still holds that crown. I would say other car manufactures have the same issue. E90 320si 1170kg & 275hp not too shabby considering the rule set they run too. if you want to see pretty much an 'unlimited' version of the same chassis, you just need to look at the current E92 M3: DTM, ALMS, GT2 cars. but somehow don't think you'll ever seen a 4pot screamer in one of them, no matter how nostalgic it may feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westy 614 Report post Posted March 12, 2012 Didn't even realise we still had a WTCC, no coverage here It's on Sky from time to time. Not missing a lot, pretty average coverage and commentary, and some Spanish diesel thing keeps winning . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1042 Report post Posted March 12, 2012 E90 320si 1170kg & 275hp not too shabby considering the rule set they run too. if you want to see pretty much an 'unlimited' version of the same chassis, you just need to look at the current E92 M3: DTM, ALMS, GT2 cars. but somehow don't think you'll ever seen a 4pot screamer in one of them, no matter how nostalgic it may feel. That design is 5+ years old, I'm talking more the newer series (FXX). Just keeps getting bigger and bigger. A 3 series is around the same size and weight as a 5 series of the same old era. 960Kg vs 1200kg My point was the small touring car of old is a thing of the past and car manufactures marketing goals dont match their smaller cars EG 1 series vs 3 series. I dont think we will see a 1 series in a WTCC for example and im sure its the same for other manufactures. WRC has the right idea, cept it's hatch backs. However, the EU emmissions drive is pushing engine development to 4 pot turbos so there maybe hope yet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docile 64 Report post Posted March 12, 2012 newer season cap video of DTM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M5V8 337 Report post Posted March 13, 2012 newer season cap video of DTM that vid is wicked good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
