Apex 693 Report post Posted September 26, 2013 You could probably add another 2 liters per 100 here in Dunedin to those figures. Interesting, why do you think that is? Some manufacturers are honest when it comes to claims. We average 9.1L/100 in our car in Auckland, would say equal mix city/highway/open road, factory claim is 8.2L/100 so that's not bad considering I drive fast without a massive concern for saving fuel and could match that easy if I drove like normal people. That's with only 190kw from a 2.0L Turbo petrol, conventional injection and proper manual gearbox. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted September 26, 2013 Though I do also know of an NZ one that went to the salt flats, and it threw a rod at 13,000 rpm... because of harmonics, the rod bolts just unscrewed, apparently Hmmm - threw a rod @ 13,000rpm - can't understand why really - was it still in warranty......?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allanw 1071 Report post Posted September 27, 2013 Hmmm - threw a rod @ 13,000rpm - can't understand why really - was it still in warranty......?? Nah... it was a bit too modified for warranty... I saw him make an XR6 get out of his way up a passing lane on a club run one day Internals were stock, just bigger turbo, fuel injectors etc... hence the 13K,000 pop. I think he sorted it and went back though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deeveus 81 Report post Posted October 2, 2013 Interesting, why do you think that is? Some manufacturers are honest when it comes to claims. We average 9.1L/100 in our car in Auckland, would say equal mix city/highway/open road, factory claim is 8.2L/100 so that's not bad considering I drive fast without a massive concern for saving fuel and could match that easy if I drove like normal people. That's with only 190kw from a 2.0L Turbo petrol, conventional injection and proper manual gearbox. Purely because with me, I live at the top of Dunedin, near on 400m above sea level, the hills tend to take it out of the l/100km and I frequently drive this road https://www.google.co.nz/maps/preview#!q=Three+Mile+Hill+Road%2C+North+Taieri&data=!2m1!1e3!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0xa82eaa60dfb0a927%3A0x24a0c157311a0098!3m8!1m3!1d14980576!2d175.3101282!3d-40.7998944!3m2!1i1920!2i930!4f13.1!4m2!3d-45.8476832!4d170.4219027&fid=7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted October 2, 2013 I used to live down there, so know that road well - fun driving road though!! And realistically, not many of the roads / streets around Dunedin are built for economy, unless you're heading south of the flood-free....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deeveus 81 Report post Posted October 2, 2013 I used to live down there, so know that road well - fun driving road though!! And realistically, not many of the roads / streets around Dunedin are built for economy, unless you're heading south of the flood-free....... It's the most fun ever going up it, as long as you don't come across a 450 year old Honda City which I just did 2 hours ago. The subjected AMG mercedes was something else going up there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2958 Report post Posted October 3, 2013 Interesting, why do you think that is? Some manufacturers are honest when it comes to claims. It's not so much honesty, the figures are produced and verified by testing houses, but the test it's self. It is a defined run of engine speed and load over a "simulated" journey which is measured for both the emissions and consumption. As the test is a controlled set of engine conditions most manufacturers specifically tune their engine maps in those conditions to save fuel and reduce emissions, the rest of the map is a lot more open. This is why some cars seem to have "flat spots" in odd places, and why chipping your ECU can change the performance of the car dramatically. Also why silly things like swirl-flaps get introduced to engines, as a proportion of the test involves the engine being at idle. In real-world driving the conditions are very different, you don't have that same controlled drive every time, hence the results are different. Some cars are better than others in getting to the results as the posts above have said, but it almost impossible (without driving so slowly as to hold up traffic) to beat the combined figures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ugan 41 Report post Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) I quietly respect MB for making an AMG A Class, but not totally convinced. Looks are subjective, as an engineering exercise -brilliant. Priced is ludicrous but if you looking at a car like this money wont be an issue but as a "Hot hatch" seems cold and clinically. Hot hatches should be manual, I would prefer 135i M( 6cylinder whail) and previous Ford Focus RS (off beat wobble) seems the business, Golf GTi is now warm. but each to their own. Edited October 3, 2013 by Allycat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
