325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 27, 2019 So im two hours in, and wresting with trying to get this bottom CCV hose off, everything else is fine i knew this one was a bitch, but i don't think i'm gunna get this one off lol If there's any tricks to this let me know, lol but this is looking like a 3 day job for one hose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 27, 2019 Ended up breaking it to get it off. What a bitch of a connector. Question I'm hoping someone can clarify. Does the order of the plugs in this matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 27, 2019 Did some digging and answered my own question, if anyone else ever forgets the order here it is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2154 Report post Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) The aircon tool I linked too awhile back Those plugs, nope, they're all in parallel Edited July 27, 2019 by Jacko Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) Air con tool didn't help with that one for some reason, with the other plugs yup! just the one that mattered lol Thanks for confirming those plugs are in parallel, i seemed to come across a heated discussion on another forum saying that the wiring order can cause faults or issues with the running of engine. What on earth are they? What/how do they measure? What do they send a signal to lol Edited July 27, 2019 by 325_driver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2154 Report post Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) Heater elements, no idea why they're needed... but apparently they are The aircon fitting tool should work, it presses up on the centre, worked fine on the couple Ive pulled apart. Edited July 27, 2019 by Jacko Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 27, 2019 Any idea what this is? Can't find anything on real OEM for it My plug into it was pretty munted so wondering if it's going to play up if I don't get the pins connected back in there again be properly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2154 Report post Posted July 27, 2019 https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/angle-connector-with-heating-element/11618638014/ - that what your pointing at? Worst case, if it doesnt get connection is the heating circuit for it doesnt work, I have no idea if the DME has some sort of impedance checking for that circuit or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 27, 2019 I think so, is it just like throttle temp related? So worst case nothing really? Just curious what all these damn plugs are, it was plugged in and held in with permaseal gasket, so when i pulled it out i realised it was busted, and the old mechanic just rammed it back in. Not to mention i found more spliced wiring near it, so hoping like hell after i put it all back together it's all good lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 27, 2019 is it a heating component as in stops the oil from solidifying or something? What a mad piece of German engineering this all is 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 27, 2019 god, getting it back on, i hope i just need to push it on, because she is difficult as hell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) I think the crank return CCV is on. Worst case if it's not on properly oil leakage down there? There's no vaccum down there aye? Edited July 28, 2019 by 325_driver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.M.W Ltd 950 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 The crank return hose must be fitted correctly. For the system to work properly ALL components need to be fitted correctly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2154 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, 325_driver said: I think the crank return CCV is on. Worst case if it's not on properly oil leakage down there? There's no vaccum down there aye? You mean the difficult one at the sump? It'll make a snap when its on correctly, and it wont pull off without releasing the tabs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 Can I assume that my car now not starting is because of that ? I.e. a vaccum leak down there MOV_0135.mp4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2154 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 Hmm, could be anything, doubt its that though. Plug scanner in and see what its says is wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 Starting, then dying immediately - does it sound like a vaccum related thing? I would have thought it would be spluttery if it was vaccum related. Does anyone else know whether the bottom CCV return pipe to sump could potentially cause a vaccum leak? It felt pretty solid on there, but who knows Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 During the removal, i was using a wire to help unclip something, and it sparked out across the rocker cover sort of near the coils - you don't reckon you've potentially damaged coils in all of this? How would i go about identifying this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2154 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 325_driver said: Starting, then dying immediately - does it sound like a vaccum related thing? I would have thought it would be spluttery if it was vaccum related. Does anyone else know whether the bottom CCV return pipe to sump could potentially cause a vaccum leak? It felt pretty solid on there, but who knows Do you have a scanner? If not, scroll through the "check" on the OBD menu. Hold the button in, and it will display a code. Something will be logged as not working. Edited July 28, 2019 by Jacko Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2154 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 1 minute ago, 325_driver said: During the removal, i was using a wire to help unclip something, and it sparked out across the rocker cover sort of near the coils - you don't reckon you've potentially damaged coils in all of this? How would i go about identifying this. Was the battery connected??! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 yeah i tried the scanner, no fault codes, and i tried holding check and no code. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 yes the battery was connected Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2154 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 Always, always, disconnect the battery. Do you have ISTA? Id be going over every electrical connector thats been disturbed and checking its properly seated. I doubt a coil has been killed, and it likely wouldnt result in that failure mode, however there is a bunch of stuff that could have been spiked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 Guess i'll check the fuses first, see if theres something blown there but it is sounding odly like a major vaccum leak, or AFM related Wish me luck, i really appreciate your responses, hoping this is something super stupid simple, which is usually is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
325_driver 422 Report post Posted July 28, 2019 Actual the pcv heater hose isn't connected, below the throttle body. What you reckon? The vaccum leak lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites