Deffed 10 Report post Posted January 30, 2022 Can anyone tell if the smg 6 speed in 05 650 can be convert to stick H pattern. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1661 Report post Posted January 30, 2022 Yes but id imagine trying to source manual parts for a car like that would be hard. At the min you'd need manual box, shifter linkages\parts, pedals, hydraulic lines and parts and recoding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deffed 10 Report post Posted January 30, 2022 Iv got the gearbox,but iv heard some cant be changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2956 Report post Posted January 30, 2022 Give Ray at HellBM a call, he has done a number of SMG to manual conversions, not sure about the 650 though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1661 Report post Posted January 30, 2022 35 minutes ago, Deffed said: Iv got the gearbox,but iv heard some cant be changed. It uses the same SMG system as earlier non M cars so don't see why not. As above HellBM may know more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deffed 10 Report post Posted January 30, 2022 Iv asked those guys they never reply. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deffed 10 Report post Posted January 30, 2022 Iv finely got every thing to start gtr build,it ran a sequential but id prefer H pattern. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pokitren 3 Report post Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 6:33 AM, Deffed said: Iv asked those guys they never reply. Prefer to keep their secrets 😃 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deffed 10 Report post Posted February 1, 2022 Yep every body that has any clue is like that,i will sort it myself have found one person that can help. M60b44,6 speed,m3 rear end and front end,xyz supersport suspension m3 breaks,weld on rear guards carbon fiber front guards and hood rear seat delete. Also have complete 650i that im going to compare its components to m3 maybe run 6series under side keeop m3 gear for sedan v8. On the next for convertible to build a ute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1661 Report post Posted February 2, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 4:49 PM, Deffed said: Iv got the gearbox,but iv heard some cant be changed. It occurred to me you may of been talking about converting the SMG box itself to H pattern? (i was thinking SMG vehicle>H pattern at the time) If so then its not practically possible to convert as the shift actuator is bolted on to the rear housing to form part of it, then uses a shortened internal selector rod (SMG II is just a external actuator attached to the H pattern shift rod). It could be done i think if you had a broken H pattern swapped parts ove Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deffed 10 Report post Posted February 2, 2022 Its smg 2 found some will do it $1100+. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1661 Report post Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) As far as i know the 650i never had SMG III which was for M5 and M6. SMG II was for E46 M3 but used the same system setup iirc. Edited February 2, 2022 by Eagle correction Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deffed 10 Report post Posted February 2, 2022 Iv looked up so many different places on net,all say it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deffed 10 Report post Posted February 2, 2022 Its weird,look up 2005 650i doesn't exsit,look up 06 its there. N62b48 06,n62b45 05. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1661 Report post Posted February 2, 2022 http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/E63/Europe/650i-N62N/R-N/browse/manual_transmission/manual_transmission_gs6s53bz_smg/ Same box as the E46 6 speed SMG\SSG with a different bellhousing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deffed 10 Report post Posted February 2, 2022 Unfortunatly i cant open that link. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1661 Report post Posted February 2, 2022 Not sure why. Do does it looks like this ? https://www.bildelsbasen.se/nb-no/pb/Søk/Bildeler/s1/BMW/BMW-6-E63&64/2002_2010/Girkasse-&-Drivaksel-&-Mellomaksel/Girkasse-6-Trinn/Alle/ID-41373351/23017563660#pb_product_image_group Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deffed 10 Report post Posted February 2, 2022 Cheers for the help everyone,its still seem pretty up in the air what gbox is in it. Once its out il update and post progress. Anyone looking to convert e46s to V8 il will be offering this as a drive in drive out procedure as long as the base engine components are avaliable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deffed 10 Report post Posted February 2, 2022 Mr Eagle im sure mate its still in the car.lol. check my last post.👍 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1661 Report post Posted February 2, 2022 I didnt see that, posted at same time. Yeah would be good to know. Does certainly seem to be some conflicted info looking at pictures and part numbers. Catalogue pictures have always been correct in my experience but maybe they arent in this case Either way if it looks like the above its a no go if not then you should be good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deffed 10 Report post Posted February 2, 2022 Lol allgood,iv had issues with engines and gearboxes that bmw agents can't even answer,if it more than 10 years old they have no clue. Once i take the box out il post a pic. 👍 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
