tobytoblerone

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A few people on a little forum doesn't bother me My business pages have more followers than your Facebook groups and/or forums alone. I'm in the business of marking money, not friends. Have a great weekend everybody, the sun is shining. Get out there & enjoy it

Says the guy still driving the same cars years later. Get a better job.

Globally only 15,759 BMW 750iL vehicles were produced. Only a handful would have been in NZ. Stop trying to compare your sour lemon to an apple

Nope, i've driven many many BMW vehicles including the 7 Series. I've bought & sold 9x 7 Series vehicles to date actually. A 735i (E65) x2, 745i (E65) x3, 745Li, 760Li x2, 728i (E38), So I know the 7 Series vehicles very well. That example is also well optioned, you have no idea what options would have actually been offered on these vehicles when sold new either. Here's some of my more recent 7 Series vehicles, most of which have since been sold. Sincerely, Tobias Kake Commercial Law Student & Graduate Business Marketing www.ebirthelectronics.com www.facebook.com/ebirthelectronics Buy an iPhone or iMac folks!

A 750iL isn't rare? You've got to be kidding with that statement. There's usually only 1 or 2 available for sale at any given time in the country. They most definitely are rare when you compare it to anything less than a V12 7 Series. Also they are very very different to the 740i. The 750iL not only has a completely different engine but also the interior comes with every extra including a fully leather lined dashboard/door cards & unique wood trims. There are vanity mirrors built into the rear headrests & fold down picnic tables, adaptive suspension as standard, radar guided cruise control usually + loads more. Actually drive the vehicle before giving an uneducated input.

A V12 750iL is a completely different vehicle to the 740i. That's like comparing Apples to oranges. The fact that it's a 1 owner NZ New 750iL makes it rare, that was the point of discussion here.

They are when they're NZ New with only one NZ owner, it is very rare to get a 750iL NZ New. Only a handful would have ever been sold, it's also in flawless condition by the looks of it. Almost showroom condition.

Love deceased estate 1 owner vehicles haha! http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-748920352.htm Yours sincerely Toby Massive douche

Good deal or too good to be true? Hmmm http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-762825740.htm

An E36 M3 suggests a used value of $15k - $20k for a good one. A good 745i 2002 - 2005 on TradeMe still sells for $15k - $25k, that's not half if my math is correct when using averages on TradeMe and not a $7k basket case as a comparison.

The used value of a 7 Series has nothing to do with the quality, it's simply due to the demand. Google depreciation of a 7 Series and/or flagship luxury vehicles, it's well documented. It simply comes down to the demand for the type of vehicle, there is none. Read my post above, I have owned many flagship luxury vehicles.

I've owned E65's & E66 (E65 = short wheel base, E66 = long wheel base) for the last 4 years now & must say they are a lot of vehicle for the money but it is getting harder & harder to find a good one on the used market (almost impossible for an E38 now). I have owned a 2002 & 2005 model, the later model year is much better as the computers that drive the cars main systems are noticeably faster, especially when using iDrive. The main reason why the 7 Series fails to hold their values on the used market compared to a say a 5 or 1 series is simply due to the lack of demand. Most people simply do not want a large luxury european sedan that guzzles fuel (same applies for the flagships from Mercedes & Audi, the S-class fares worse in depreciation). The 7 series has always had lower sales numbers and dare I say is much a rarer vehicle as there is small demand for them new especially in NZ, I recently spoke to Team McMillan & they advised me that they sell fewer than 10 7 Series vehicles per year, they don't even have a demo vehicle anymore. This is also why most of the 7 Series out there on the market are used imports. My advice to anyone that decides to purchase an E65/E66 7 Series is to get the vehicle checked & only buy one if your going to keep it for a long time & are prepared to spend money on it, parts are expensive and you'll often need to import them yourself (have had to do this so many times!) as the dealers charge way too much. Be prepared to either pay a dealer or for you to start an electrical engineering degree, jokes. But almost! It is astonishing to realise how much the 7 Series depreciates from new but it's just the life cycle of a large high end luxury vehicle. Once a 7 series hits the used market, the price plummets to meet the affordability of the general population & continues to drop as the vehicle goes from one owner to the next. Also $6k - $10k is very low for a 2002 E65/E66 7 Series & definitely does not reflect overall used market value for a 2002 E65/E66. The price structure for a used E65/E66 would look like this: $8k for a basket case (no service history, 3-4 owners & may require substantial mechanical/electrical work) & then $20k+ for a prime dealer-maintained example that has been checked (market value taken from 7 classifieds on TM), but in saying that you can sell anything at any price you like, doesn't necessarily represent market value (however we must stick to the rule of working out an average). The one mentioned above is in rough shape with high KM's & most likely is a basket case, the owner has stained the beige carpets which speaks volumes to how they must maintain the vehicle itself. The alloys are also not OEM ( those are replica an 18" replica of the OEM 19" E65 'Style 95' alloys). Here's how the cycle of luxury car depreciation works, lets take a used 2002 7 series as an example such as the one above. So we can assume the first owner of that 7 Series is going to be wealthy, the car from new is maintained to a very high standard by the dealer. The first owner then flicks the vehicle off to the second owner that is going to pay roughly 50% of it's original price say 3 years later, we can assume this person has a good amount of money behind them & they will make an informed decision as to their purchase meaning they will know what a 7 Series is, most if not all of it's features & have rough idea as to the costs to maintain/repair. Now 3 - 5 years later the vehicle is now 6-8 years old & this owner then flicks the vehicle off to the third owner at a price that will meet the general market. At this point the vehicle would be now worth 20 - 30% of it's original value. Now the third owner most likely won't make an informed purchase & not know anything about a 7 Series besides the fact that it's big, looks good & has the BMW badge then spend all of their money buying the vehicle with nothing left over to maintain and or repair it (which at this stage of it's life, will require a lot of maintenance. This is why a lot of large luxury european sedans start to die off & end up on TradeMe for $7k on auction! it's quite sad to see this happen but everything has to end up in the bin eventually & this happens to all luxury cars. At least then only the good ones shall remain as future classics! Also in regards to the Singapore comment, there's nothing wrong with a Singapore imported 7 Series. I owned a Singapore E65 in 2010 & had not a single issue with it, mechanical maybe (to be expected) but never electrical! The electrical wiring disintegrating myth was only an issue on older 90's european vehicles. In fact the E65/E66 systems communicate over a fiber optic cable that runs in a loop between all of the vehicle's systems. There are still many technical innovations in these cars that continue to surpass any new vehicle from almost any japanese car manufacturer. I will say though costs to repair & maintain aren't that bad but certain things are expensive to replace eg. suspension components, transmission (air suspension, standard in long wheel base E66). Any and all E65/E66 owners out there get at me! I know this vehicle inside & out, I need to post more mods I've done to my 7 I just don't have the time like I used to. My conclusion on the E65/E66 is that it will make a phenomenal classic in the future, awesome forward thinking design for it's time (still looks futuristic inside & out!) & the quality is actually surprisingly very good. I like the yacht like interior layout & the use of more wood trim, especially the wood trim on the rear parcel tray (yes BMW wood trims are real wood!). My actual fully loaded long wheel base 7 Series, so many 7 Series owners have no idea what this truly means!

Probably one of the last shipments of new E65/E66! Sad still has the plastic on the seats from the factory.. I wonder if any of the cars were salvaged for parts, hmmm... I teared a little haha

Wowzers @ $9k New price $300k + Ermergherd! She's looking flawless http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mercedesbenz/auction-733382176.htm

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HID bulb & ballast included. In OK condition, a good clean & polish will have this headlight looking like new again. Imported from the UK for my vehicle but it didn't match my vehicle & ended up having to order a new one from BM grr! Used value is $1k+ . New value from dealer is $2k+ Looking for at-least $400+ My loss, your gain.

works fine, has HID blub & ballast. Some of the other bulbs have been removed. In OK condition. Purchased for vehicle from overseas, went to install to find out I had purchased the wrong one.

Yes that's the back seat, it has the extended leather option so it's going to be a big job cleaning all the leather. I did the right side of the back portion that runs the length of the side of the back seats to the top of the rear parcel tray with leather cleaner & you can see the difference to the piece on the left. The leather must react to atmospheric conditions & darken over time. here's another view: also cleaned

Sooo I hadn't cleaned the leather in my vehicle for over a year now & it started to look darker than what it used to be from wear & tear. The official bmw color name for the leather in my vehicle is 'platinum merino' which is a 'BMW individual' specified leather color & should not be confused with the typical 'beige' color seen in most 7ers which is darker & a different grade of leather. I've done half of one seat with Meguiars gold class leather cleaner & here's the difference of before & after. I must say I didn't realize how dark the leather had gotten until now & I will now maintain the leather more frequently to avoid it going dark again!

After the paint's first cut, polish & wax. Water beads straight off the surface! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tkAQhEjxmk

Ahhh ruin a perfectly good rare beast! Luckily the decals are removable I've been wanting a white 760Li! This owner clearly has no sense of style! This reminds me of when I once saw a 50 year old driving the current model 7 series with big chrome 20+ inch rims... late midlife crisis perhaps? Pure BMW purist here, OEM all the way! This orange & white thing this 760Li owner has going on should be illegal!

SOLD

The car is still for sale, if anyone is interested at $1,200. Please PM me.

Not my vehicle, listing on behalf of the owner.