10hove 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 We are in desperate need of another Tech with BMW experience for our new shop in Hamilton up to $30 per hour for the right person plus bonuses. If you know of anybody or are intereted give me a call or PM me chhers Hove 0275 924 817 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Very hard to get Alex, I've been trying for 2yrs and gave up. Was willing to pay $30 an hour as well. All I got was people, who couldnt communicate, didn't have tools, no residency and have never worked in the same environment as we do, but they still wanted top dollars. I ended up taking on another apprentice who I'll train "my way" Best of luck with your adds, but you'll probably just enrichen your advertisers Cheers Glenn PS: "poaching" or "headhunting" seems the way the dealers go up here. Not something I would do though. Had it done to me several times....good people that I had spent time on training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
international 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Dont mind me saying but I suppose thats how dealership servicing really get hold of their skilled workers with most of the mechanics going through as apprentice before becoming an offical mechanic. You do get a few Master Mechanics whom have had tranning in BMW Germany... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr E34 11 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Dont mind me saying but I suppose thats how dealership servicing really get hold of their skilled workers with most of the mechanics going through as apprentice before becoming an offical mechanic. You do get a few Master Mechanics whom have had tranning in BMW Germany... Any idea what BMW DEALERS pay their technicians? Just curious how they rate in the scheme of things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Any idea what BMW DEALERS pay their technicians? Just curious how they rate in the scheme of things. Less than $30 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gus 5 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 just outta curiosity what sort of experience are you after? i think you, like many companies, are finding that people think they are worth a lot more than they actually are. not a big fan of headhunting either, what you can offer your people needs to be measured in more than just $$ terms to make it harder for employees to leave (in a good way!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
international 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Any idea what BMW DEALERS pay their technicians? Just curious how they rate in the scheme of things. The actual numbers I aint too sure but they get paid just as much as your Toyota mechanic... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
international 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Less than $30 apprentice is $12~$15... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr E34 11 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 The actual numbers I aint too sure but they get paid just as much as your Toyota mechanic... McMillans charge $125 hr, i would have thought their top guys got more than Toyota & or $30hr. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 apprentice is $12~$15... You normally start an apprentice on minimum wage for the 3 month trial period to guage his abilities and education standard, then you either let him go or get on with it. I always pay more than I should. Alot goes into training a person, and if he's comitted, he gains too and so does the NZ Motor Industry I have 40 yrs experience in the industry and where does that go when I'm gone ??? I have experience with aircraft, military vehicles, helicopters, marine (petrol & diesel) and 30 yrs BMW Hopefully I'm helping someone, myself and the Industry at large. Just my 2 cents worth Just wish Alex some luck with his quest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
international 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 McMillans charge $125 hr, i would have thought their top guys got more than Toyota & or $30hr. Thats why the BMW mechanics reckon they have sh*t pay when you consider the cost of servicing a BMW and a Toyota... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
international 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 You normally start an apprentice on minimum wage for the 3 month trial period to guage his abilities and education standard, then you either let him go or get on with it. I always pay more than I should. Alot goes into training a person, and if he's comitted, he gains too and so does the NZ Motor Industry I have 40 yrs experience in the industry and where does that go when I'm gone ??? I have experience with aircraft, military vehicles, helicopters, marine (petrol & diesel) and 30 yrs BMW Hopefully I'm helping someone, myself and the Industry at large. Just my 2 cents worth Just wish Alex some luck with his quest Wow, I mean its people like you which we need more of in NZ, with so many skilled workers going over the ditch for higher pay, I suppose people like you who are self employed really value the employee and offer to pay them more than what the market price, for that I really give my kudos to you... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 McMillans charge $125 hr, i would have thought their top guys got more than Toyota & or $30hr. The hourly rate covers all the white shirts and contributes to warranty repairs that BMW AG do not cover in full Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2152 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 just outta curiosity what sort of experience are you after? i think you, like many companies, are finding that people think they are worth a lot more than they actually are. not a big fan of headhunting either, what you can offer your people needs to be measured in more than just $$ terms to make it harder for employees to leave (in a good way!) I dont get out of bed for less than $35 haha NZ has a seriously massive shortage of skilled people, I know of a very large aviation company who just imported 80 guys as there is no one available in NZ.... Very happy to have ditched the automotive apprenticeship and gone into aviation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 I dont get out of bed for less than $35 haha NZ has a seriously massive shortage of skilled people, I know of a very large aviation company who just imported 80 guys as there is no one available in NZ.... Very happy to have ditched the automotive apprenticeship and gone into aviation Thats quite true, but you guys are like doctors, our mistakes end up on the doorstep on Monday morning Yours end up at the morgue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2152 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Thats quite true, but you guys are like doctors, our mistakes end up on the doorstep on Monday morning Yours end up at the morgue True true. But thats what insurance is for End of the day a bolt is a bolt. Car Technician puts a bolt in, the bolt is in for all of 0.1 man hours. Aircraft tech puts bolt in, signs his name twice, another QA tech comes over and signs his name. 3 trees are killed in producing paperwork for said bolt, and the bolt takes about 5 man hours to install. Up ands down to both sides. NZ seriously has to sort out the skilled man power issues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 What do you do Jacko ??? Airframes or engineering ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2152 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 What do you do Jacko ??? Airframes or engineering ?? Airframe and powerplant for 5 years and now 2 years specialising in structures (where there seems to be the biggest gap at the moment, which translates into opportunities to travel and earn good $) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1043 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 yeah, its good for us contractors at the mo .. NZ IT sector has been hit hard too .. f'all people who know what theyre doing around ... lots of mid range people however. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lidistick 70 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Thats quite true, but you guys are like doctors, our mistakes end up on the doorstep on Monday morning Yours end up at the morgue Yeah but doctors get paid less than $30 an hour in NZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Jacko,what was invlolved in getting your quals for Airframe? I have been wanting to do that for ages just been thinking of ways to get there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cainchapman 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 That's cheap. There is an Australian company who has come over (and brought 60+ staff) to remove the asbestos from the Contact Energy power station in New Plymouth. A year contract for a mere $15 million. Conti's don't pay much either as most of their mechanical staff end up at Crown lift trucks working on forklifts as they pay an additional $2 per hour. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2152 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Jacko,what was invlolved in getting your quals for Airframe? I have been wanting to do that for ages just been thinking of ways to get there! Theres a number of ways - To get tradecert in A&P (or the NZQA equivalent) you do a 1 year pre-employment course (chch,blenheim,akl) then a 3 year apprenticeship. License exams are done through ASL http://www.aviation.co.nz/ and once you have a license (9ish exams depending on what you want) you can convert it to a diploma (which isnt really worth anything anyway). Once those are done there are courses/qualifications/ratings for africa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Where/how do I get to the p/e course? sorry off topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmw.maniac 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 I have an Aunty that used to work for Porsche in Stuttgart, and she was telling me how much the very top Porsche mechanics get paid over there - it was something in the vicinity of 60,000 - 75,000 Euros + benefits including company car (Porsche of course). That's about NZ$130K per year, which is more than a lot of Doctors in NZ! But remember, these people were working on Europe's billionaire's 911 GT2s etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
