*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Its probably been mentioned before..... but never cut the rear parcel shelf on any BMW. The steel rear panel is a structural part of the body shell. Supporting either suspension or seat belt anchor points. You will not get a WOF if this area is cut or modified. And it's very, very expensive to get repaired. Uneconomic to repair on an E30. Recently I have had to give advise to people on this subject because their cars failed WOF's for this reason. Cheers Glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablo23 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 sweet cheers glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rogan 1 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 What about e39s. Some came with a apir of 8"subs in the rear tray. The flat section is there but the holes arent cut. It's one of my options but I'll be speaking to a certifier before blade touches metal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hotwire 352 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 What about e39s. Some came with a apir of 8"subs in the rear tray. The flat section is there but the holes arent cut. It's one of my options but I'll be speaking to a certifier before blade touches metal Are these sections not perforated ready for removal - I would have thought the body panels would be the same in all shells - ready to be removed depending on option spec of the car further down the production line? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 What about e39s. Some came with a apir of 8"subs in the rear tray. The flat section is there but the holes arent cut. It's one of my options but I'll be speaking to a certifier before blade touches metal Glad you took the option of checking first Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rogan 1 Report post Posted February 9, 2008 Are these sections not perforated ready for removal - I would have thought the body panels would be the same in all shells - ready to be removed depending on option spec of the car further down the production line? Nope, no pre-cut for ski hatch, and no pre-cut for the 8"subs, but there is a pre-cut for some small holes where the 8"subs go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Five Star 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Rear speakers are a waste of money anyway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Lol yeah. Cheers though Glenn, always thought the reason that you couldn't cut into the PT was because if done rangi etc would leave sharp edges etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Braeden320 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Can't cut into any sedans parcel tray..Not just bmws. But yea good advise espcially if you are looking at buying a car with aftermaket sounds - espcially 6x9's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sick Puppy 1 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Yeah, I remember there was something about this on Fair Go a few years back- guy purchased an E36 from a dealer with aftermarket speakers in, it fails Wof, dealer not interested... didn't realise that it was all BMW sedans though, so will bear that in mind for my next purchase (which I'm pretty sure will be a Beemer ) Cheers Glenn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hartage 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Yeah, I remember there was something about this on Fair Go a few years back- guy purchased an E36 from a dealer with aftermarket speakers in, it fails Wof, dealer not interested... didn't realise that it was all BMW sedans though, so will bear that in mind for my next purchase (which I'm pretty sure will be a Beemer ) Cheers Glenn! It does not just apply to BMW, it is all makes and models, If you cut into the rear shelf, you risk WOF failure and bigish bills to repair Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM WORLD 1258 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 i just fitted some 6by9 speakers into my e36 coupe's std place with these adaptors i brought from trade me . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Braeden320 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Yea thats the goer Brent to avoid cutting the tray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danthaman01 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) what about the kick panel speakers are we able to cut up where the originals are to fit a 6 inch? Edited February 10, 2008 by danthaman01 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hartage 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 what about the kick panel speakers are we able to cut up where the originals are to fit a 6 inch? Not too sure, but the main reason for the rear is the seat belt mounting for the rear seats. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PBOY23 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 i just fitted some 6by9 speakers into my e36 coupe's std place with these adaptors i brought from trade me . hey brent can you please please post up a picture of the parcel tray with the 6x9s and what size packers are they cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 what about the kick panel speakers are we able to cut up where the originals are to fit a 6 inch? Any cuts or mods within 150mm of a structural mounting point ie: door hinges, catches, seat belt anchors or A,B & C pillar mods are a WOF fail....lucky with a few of those they cant see them, and they cant rip your car apart to look. A WOF inspection is basically a visual inspection. Its really up to you if you want to alter the structural integrity of your vehicle....I wouldnt. Be creative and get round it some other way. Cheers Glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danthaman01 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 i just fitted some 6by9 speakers into my e36 coupe's std place with these adaptors i brought from trade me . man iv been trying to find these spacers everywhere im probly just going to make my own up make them a bit thiner plan is for this weekend il post pictures when they are completed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM WORLD 1258 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 man iv been trying to find these spacers everywhere im probly just going to make my own up make them a bit thiner plan is for this weekend il post pictures when they are completedyea , i saw a pr of these ages ago ,on trade me , missed them , grabbed these when they came up , was thinking of just making some out of custom wood , but cant be bothered . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neal 512 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Not too sure, but the main reason for the rear is the seat belt mounting for the rear seats. Yeah , no cutting of pannels within 300 mm of Seat belt mounts , according to ltsa. Done for everyones saftey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
