*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted August 15, 2008 (edited) Cool however it has had leaky shocks and looks like its made a sh*t of a mess under there. Im not joking when I say my 330i underneath is cleaner than that. Its at 113000ks ... just a constructive observation dude.. Its the camera...its all different shades of underseal....you need to see it in the flesh Josh Brad came and looked at it today...he was like.... Edited August 15, 2008 by botanymotorworx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted August 15, 2008 New roundels coming with the ASC controller (x Germany) They are different from the other BMW roundels (that was just for Graham) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmw.maniac 1 Report post Posted August 15, 2008 I bet the Sultan of Brunei would pay top dollar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted August 15, 2008 New roundels coming with the ASC controller (x Germany) They are different from the other BMW roundels (that was just for Graham) its quite comforting(i mean that sincerely) that you can just order up parts for such a rare car that is nearly 20 years old!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bradc 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2008 I do agree that it does need a steam clean underneath to bring it up to nice condition, but it isn't that bad at all. It doesn't have a spot of rust! Kiwi535 - there are 4 in the country now. A red one in Tauranga, a black one in Auckland, my one and this silver one. http://www.carfax.co.nz/car/?plate=brg755 http://www.carfax.co.nz/car/?plate=VN5576 As you can see the red one hasn't been on the road in a little while now. I have the guys details but he isn't responding at all. I hope he simply hasn't died or anything. The red one was one of the Singapore delivered ones, the other Singapore car is in Aus. The black one is ex UK like mine. Mr E34 - it isn't a fantasy price. In the USA good condition 850CSi's with a lot more mileage have sold for US$70k or more. Obviously in NZ the market might be different, but remember you are talking about a V12 6 speed manual coupe that cost over $330k when new! This car has only done 20000km and looks like it is a year old. It is in fantastic overall condition and is insanely rare. Eddy - the Sultan had 3 850's. He had an 850CSi, a normal 850i and an Alpina B12 in RHD. The Alpina was sold a few years ago in the UK for over 70000 pounds! It had only travelled 1200 miles or something completely rediculous. They only made 57 Alpina B12 5.7's and only 4 of those were RHD. All of those 4 were unique, they were all different colours etc. Two of them had the shifttronic option. Ohh and as for me buying it....if it was black and had done 20000km I would beg, borrow and steal to get it. However to be honest it didn't do it for me in silver. If I had the choice between spending $80k or so to buy this car, or to spend $35k on mine (plus the $45k it already owes me) I would definitely spend the money on mine. Techno Violet plus Lotus White leather is completely unique and darker colours suit the E31 shape much better imho. However if the price ends up being $40k or something, I will buy it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmw.maniac 1 Report post Posted August 16, 2008 Haha I just found this: Link 10 mpg City! That's almost 24l/100km!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted August 16, 2008 Haha I just found this: Link 10 mpg City! That's almost 24l/100km!! If you were driving it....would you really care ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RvT 9 Report post Posted August 16, 2008 Haha I just found this: Link 10 mpg City! That's almost 24l/100km!! Welcome to the world of M cars. If you want ecomony buy a Prius; if you want HP buy an MMMMMM. 24l/100 - I am jealous Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr E34 11 Report post Posted August 17, 2008 Hi Glenn, there is one 850csi in the UK for sale, 1994 done 100,000 miles, asking 16,750 pounds. Apparently it was the BMW press car, orient blue, fully loaded etc. The one that just sold on Pistonheads must have been a bargain @ 11,000 pounds. (the one i posted on this thread) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted August 17, 2008 also on piston heads for around the same money is a e 39 m5 with a couple mods to reduce weight...is that our reference do you think??ie e39 M5 money? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr E34 11 Report post Posted August 18, 2008 also on piston heads for around the same money is a e 39 m5 with a couple mods to reduce weight...is that our reference do you think??ie e39 M5 money? I don't think so. The E39 is more practical for daily driver, the 850csi was a limited edition( very rare numbers) run to give credibility to the failed E31 range. It's low volume makes it worth something, who knows what it is worth in NZ. When money changes hands then we will know, money talks, bullshit walks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted August 18, 2008 I don't think so. The E39 is more practical for daily driver, the 850csi was a limited edition( very rare numbers) run to give credibility to the failed E31 range. It's low volume makes it worth something, who knows what it is worth in NZ. When money changes hands then we will know, money talks, bullshit walks. you are right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bradc 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2008 E39's are everywhere, people will mistake an M5 for a piece of crap 520 with M badges If you see an E31 coming, you know it is special! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alant 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 Eddy - the Sultan had 3 850's. He had an 850CSi, a normal 850i and an Alpina B12 in RHD. The Alpina was sold a few years ago in the UK for over 70000 pounds! It had only travelled 1200 miles or something completely rediculous. They only made 57 Alpina B12 5.7's and only 4 of those were RHD. All of those 4 were unique, they were all different colours etc. Two of them had the shifttronic option. A bit light on the Sultan there Brad, Here's a list (1997 ish) of the BMW's the Sultan of Brunei had, over 50 E31's he is now reported to have well over 5,000 different cars. Make Model Reg Chassis BMW 750iL BP9889 WBAGK22090DH61233 BMW 535i BL9678 WAPBA35012BB20571 BMW 328i KF8282 WBBK82020ET80957 BMW 530i BQ7037 WBAHK220X0GF75090 BMW 750i BQ3515 WBAGC820004372784 BMW 750i BQ3509 WBAGC820204372625 BMW 735iL BK145 WBAGC820104372728 BMW 750iL BQ3516 WBAGC82030DC71208 BMW 750i BQ3513 WBAGB82070DB54332 BMW 735i BQ3518 WBAGB620801660531 BMW B10 BK8800 WBAH22060BF53160 BMW 535i BK7780 WBAH022050BF52503 BMW 535iA KF9299 WBAHD22090BF53265 BMW 750iL BQ3366 WBAGC820104372261 BMW 750i BQ7188 WBAG82030DB54313 BMW 535iA BQ7129 WBAHD22020BF53267 BMW 530i BQ7531 WBAAKZZ050GF75093 BMW 530i BN1889 WBAHKZZ060GF75040 BMW 530i BN2819 WBAHK22060GF75023 BMW 535i BK9385 WBAHD220X0BF52643 BMW Z1 BN2121 WBABA91070AL03888 BMW 530i BN8105 WBAHKZZ060GF75037 BMW Z1 DPD WBABA910X0AL01455 BMW M535i BH9597 WBADC82OX00660712 BMW Z1 BK5511 WBABA91060AL01467 BMW Z1 DPD WBABA91060AL01842 BMW Z1 DPD WBABA91000AL03649 BMW 535i BK7199 WBAHD22090BF53198 BMW 535i BH1377 WBAHD220504139188 BMW B10 BK8571 WAPBA35011BB20518 BMW 535i BJ9535 WBAHD220X04139753 BMW 535i BJ9900 WBAHD220904139856 BMW 535i KE7557 WBAHD22040BF52511 BMW 750iL BJ7484 WBAGC82020DC71037 BMW 750i BP2011 WBAGC820504372781 BMW 750i BQ3501 WBAGB8200DB54267 BMW 850i NONE WBACG22B70CB57078 BMW 530i BP1299 WBAHK22000GF75034 BMW 530i BQ7038 WBAHK22030GF75089 BMW 530i BN8778 WBAHK220X0GF75087 BMW 530i BM9992 WBAHK22060GF75068 BMW 530i BM9992 WBAHK22000GF75079 BMW 530i BQ8787 WBAHK220400GF75084 BMW 535i KF8579 WAPBA35011BB20515 BMW 850i BMW850 WBAEG22040CB57197 BMW 750iL BQ3511 WBAGB820X0DB54230 BMW 750iL BQ3504 WBAGC820904372136 BMW 750iA KF9333 WBAGB82080DB54128 BMW 735iL BQ3503 WBAGC820X0DC71125 BMW 750iL BQ3517 WBAGC82090DC71195 BMW 850i KE8508 WBAEG22090CB57275 BMW 750i BQ3514 WBAG082020DB54352 BMW 735i BQ3512 WBAGB620201660928 BMW 750iL BP2013 WBAGC82050DC71310 BMW 735i BP2015 WBAGC820804372841 BMW 735i BQ3510 WBAGC820004372882 BMW 850i BL9125 WBAEAG220800CB577 BMW 535i BN5995 WBAHD220X0BF52903 BMW 325i KF9388 WBABB22010EC15224 BMW M3 BK7105 WBSBB05090EB86177 BMW 750iL BQ8888 WBAGC820404372707 BMW 735i KD1745 WBAFH820007872035 BMW 535i BH5351 WBADC810700655159 BMW 535i KE9398 WBAHD22000BF53199 BMW 750iL BQ7000 WBAGC8204DC71170 BMW 750i KF9919 WBAGB82090DB54123 BMW 735i BG7920 WBAFH4207C7426817 BMW 750i NONE WBAGC82030DC71340 BMW 325i KF9989 WBABJ62080EC76063 BMW M3 BN379 WBSBJ92080ES85355 BMW 850i BL8898 WAPBC50C02D110063 BMW 850i BL3000 WBAEG22010CB57612 BMW 850i KE8505 WBAEG22010CB57075 BMW 540i BQ1661 WBADE62040BW70106 BMW 750iAL BQ3502 WBAGC82090DC71357 BMW 850i BN2829 WBAEG22000CB57441 BMW 535i BK7755 WBAHD22090BF53590 BMW 535i BJ8888 WBAH220004575320 BMW 535i BK9119 WBAHD22010BF52904 BMW 535i KE9527 WBAHD22050BF52758 BMW 535i KE8383 WBSHD92070GA25263 BMW 850i BN2139 WBAEG22030CB57787 BMW 750iL BP9898 WBAGK22000DH61234 BMW 850i BM7557 WBAEG22050CB57032 BMW 750i BK7510 WBAGB82050B541211 BMW NAZCA BL8999 003/ID BMW 850CSi KF6783 WBSEG92000CC88048 BMW 850i BN2188 WBAEG22020CB57683 BMW 535i BM501 WBAHD22024139892 BMW 850i BN2899 WBAEG22040CB57426 BMW 850i BN1969 WBAEG22030CB57336 BMW 850i BN1979 WBAEG22060CB57220 BMW 850i BN2889 WBAEG22000CB57732 BMW 850i BQ1010 WBAEG22070CB57212 BMW 850i BN2199 WBAEG22020CB57473 BMW 850i BN1980 WBAEG22010CB57772 BMW 850i BN1938 WBAEG22080CB57428 BMW 850i BN2289 WBAEG22040CB57474 BMW 850i BN2818 WBAEG220X0CB27396 BMW 850Ci BN2198 WBAEG22000CB57908 BMW 850i BQ2838 WBAEG22080CB57185 BMW 850i BN2218 WBAEG22030CB57742 BMW 850i BN2918 WBAEG22030CB57773 BMW 850i BN2238 WBAEG22090CB57390 BMW 850i BN2219 WBAEG22050CB57743 BMW 850i BN2298 WBAEG22090CB57521 BMW 850i BN1978 WBAEG22060CB57394 BMW 850i BN2293 WBAEG22010CB57383 BMW 850Ci BN2778 WBAEG22050CB57919 BMW 850i BN2189 WBAEG22030CB57269 BMW 850i BN1929 WBAEG22000CB57357 BMW 850i BN1822 WBAEG220X0CB57575 BMW 850i BN9996 WBAEG22000CB57729 BMW 850i BN1939 WBAEG22010CB57268 BMW 850i BN2919 WBAEG2208OCB57686 BMW 850i BN2318 WBAEG22090CB57440 BMW 850i BP1879 WBAEG22000CB57083 BMW 850i BN2898 WBAEG22000CB57133 BMW 850i KE8790 WBAEG22060CB57606 BMW 750iL BJ9579 WBAGL8204372337 BMW 750iL BJ9229 WBAGC820X0DC71092 BMW 735iL KD3051 WBAGC620X02725273 BMW 750iL KE5753 WBAGC820204372141 BMW 750iL KE5735 WBAGC820X04372128 BMW 850i KE8502 WBAEG22090CB57079 BMW 325i BM9995 WBAGC62090EC76105 BMW 325i KF1128 WBABJ620EC76420 BMW M3 BN378 WBSBJ62000ES83270 BMW 525i BN6886 WBAHD62080BJ37678 BMW 850i KE8503 WBAEG22050CB57080 BMW 850i BK2 WBAEC22020CB57098 BMW 525i BL9820 WBAHJ62090GD10H00 BMW 850Ci BL9088 WAPBC50C02D110064 BMW 850CSi KF6782 WBSE692070CCAA046 BMW 850Ci BN1988 WBAEG22050CB57967 BMW 750iL BK9282 WBAGC82050DC71176 BMW 530i BN8107 WBAHK22010GF75088 BMW 530i BN8106 WBAHK22040GF75036 BMW 850i BL2680 WBAEG22010CB57402 BMW 735i BQ3505 WBAGB42040DB31101 BMW 750iAL BQ3508 WBAGC820104372504 BMW 750iAL BQ3355 WBAGC820204372818 BMW 735iL BQ3506 WBAGC82020DC71068 BMW 735i BE7351 WBAGB82030DB54120 BMW 750iL BQ3530 WBAGC820504372232 BMW 750iL BQ3507 WBAGC82050DC71128 BMW 325i BM9656 WBABF42060JA89854 BMW 530i BN6262 WBAHK22030GF75092 BMW 530i BM9922 WBAHK220X0GF75039 BMW 850i KF2032 WBAEG922090CB57776 BMW M1 DPD WBS59910004301120 BMW 530i BN1889 WBAHKZZ090GF75095 BMW 1100LT KE9929 6459817K1100LT BMW 320i BM8902 WBACB22060FA05331 BMW M3 BN1110 WBSBF92080EA66626 BMW 328i BP9332 WBACD22070AS64592 BMW 328i BP8281 WBACD22080A564634 BMW 328i BP8629 WBACD220X0A564733 BMW 735iL BP2014 WBAGC82000DC71067 BMW 750iL BP2010 WBAGC820604372725 BMW 750iL BQ767 WBAGC82020DC71359 BMW 750iL BQ747 WBAGC82090DC71178 BMW 735iL BQ727 WBAGC820404372416 BMW 540i L51HUW WBAHK42090GB64016 BMW 525i P990RUL WBAHJ62060GD13416 BMW 540i 1TOY WBADE62090BW71025 BMW 750i N922OYM WBAGG22020DG70032 BMW 325i PGN1 WBAB822090EC15357 BMW 850i H1PNR WBAEC22040CB57121 BMW 328i N809GLH WBACD22090AS61838 BMW B10 KE8579 WBAHD22020BF54368 BMW E39 ALPINA BQ8890 WBADE62050BW72060 BMW 750iL KF9922 WBAGC82000DC71151 BMW 540i BH724 WBAHE62030GF20334 BMW 735iL KA724 WBAGC42020DC16872 BMW 850i BL3003 WBAEG22000CB57214 BMW 530i BL26 BAHK22070GF75094 BMW 850i BH8 WBAEG22030CB57319 BMW 750i BM8724 WBAGB82050DB54457 BMW 750i BM12 WBAGB82060DB54175 BMW 320i BM8903 WBACB22020FA06198 BMW 318IS BR9321 WBABE82070EU21896 BMW B12 ALPINA BQ1881 WAPBC57L08RD30122 BMW 530i BM88 BAHK22040GF75070 BMW 850i BL2768 WBAEG22040CB57376 Like a lot of people I would love an 850 csi or better still an Alpina B12 E31.... Never mind I will just have to stick to my 840 ci Sport Individual 4.4l. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westy 614 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 Greedy bastid! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alant 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 Greedy bastid! Who? him or me? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30stz 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) saw this today, definately of the uber1337 variety. Edited August 25, 2008 by Flux Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bradc 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 Hmm, that list is different to the list I have of his 850CSi's, the B12 listed there is not an 850CSi, it doesn't have the M style WBS chassis code Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alant 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) Hmm, that list is different to the list I have of his 850CSi's, the B12 listed there is not an 850CSi, it doesn't have the M style WBS chassis code This list was made up in 1997 and had a number of errors including a B12 E31 that is actually a B12 750 4 door, (Alpina used B12 for both 8 and 7 series just as the used B10 for the 5 and 6 (E24) cars). This list has since been cleaned up and all the E31's validated by Jud who runs the E31 Project out of the US. Edited August 25, 2008 by alant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 This list was made up in 1997 and had a number of errors including a B12 E31 that is actually a B12 750 4 door, (Alpina used B12 for both 8 and 7 series just as the used B10 for the 5 and 6 (E24) cars). This list has since been cleaned up and all the E31's validated by Jud who runs the E31 Project out of the US. Here's the link to Jud's site: http://www.e31.net/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 This is the build sheet for the car CC88064_BuildSpec.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topcat 11 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) with that many cars in the garage, i wonder if he (the sultan) ran his own bimmer race series? good job though for the boy who has to maintain the data base on which car needs a WOF etc does the sultan only drive BMW, or does he also collect the other 20 or so manufactures???? so many questions Edited August 25, 2008 by BM Weapon aka topcat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravo 35 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 Even if I had his kind of money I wouldn't buy that many cars. I suppose its just like collecting stamps but I wouldn't do that either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cale 36 Report post Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) It has been said that he has at least 3,000 to 6,000 cars and has bought over U.S.$4 billion worth of cars. The number purchased by his business interests and the number actually used by himself and his family differ greatly. The Daily Mirror (UK) reported on October 26, 2007 that the Sultan owned 531 Mercedes Benzs, 367 Ferraris, 362 Bentleys, 185 BMWs, 177 Jaguars, 160 Porsches, 130 Rolls-Royces, and 20 Lamborghinis . He's also bought many operational one-off concept cars from Ferrari, Bentley etc. A bit ridiculous IMO. I think his cars are worth about 20% of his net worth. Maintenance costs would be massive. edit.. sp Edited August 25, 2008 by Quailboy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topcat 11 Report post Posted August 26, 2008 A bit ridiculous IMO. I think his cars are worth about 20% of his net worth. Maintenance costs would be massive. edit.. sp 20%????!!!. now thats good business thinking.........as long as the values go up.......not likely me thinks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
