pjay 8 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 A handful of BMWs in there. Happy to see the 996 up in the top 3, but disappointed to see the E30 M3 everybody loves so much not make the top 25! 1- Pagani Zonda F 2- Lotus 340R 3- Porsche 996 GT3 4- Caterham Superlight R300 5- RenaultSport Megane R26.R 6- Lotus Elan 7- RenaultSport Clio Trophy 8- Ferrari F50 9- Mazda MX-5 10- Mitsubishi Evo VI Makinen Ed 11- Porsche 997 GT3 RS 12- Ferrari F40 13- Subaru Impreza RB5 PPP 14- Ford GT 15- Ferrari 430 Scuderia 16- Audi R8 17- Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 18- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale 19- Lotus Elise 20- Ferrari 550 Maranello 21- Nissan GT-R 22- Honda Integra Type-R (1996-2000) 23- Peugeot 205 GTI 24- Ferrari 288 GTO 25- Renault Clio V6 26- BMW E30 M3 27- BMW M3 CSL 28- Porsche 911 2.7 RS 29 Honda NSX Type-R 30- Renault Clio Williams 31- Lotus Evora 32- Subaru Impreza P1 33- Lamborghini Murcielagos LP670-4 SV 34- Lotus Esprit V8 Sport 350 35- Mitsibushi Evo IX FQ-360 36- Lotus Exige 37- Porsche 964 RS 38- Porsche 997 Carrera S 39- Ford Focus RS mk2 40- Ariel Atom 41- Porsche Cayman S 42- TVR Griffith 43- Toyota MR2 Roadster 44- Aston Vantage V12 45- Mercedes CLK63 Black 46- Porsche 911 Turbo 993 47- Noble M400 48- Honda NSX 49- Porsche Carrera GT 50- Porsche 968 Club Sport 51- Subaru Impreza STI 52- Porsche Boxster S 53- Lotus 2-Eleven 54- Lamborghini Gallardo 55- Renault Alpine A610 56- Jaguar E-type 57- Alfa Romeo Alfasud 58- Ferrari Enzo 59- Gumpert Apollo 60- Lamborghini Diablo 6.0 VT 61- RenaultSport Clio 200 Cup 62- BMW E92 M3 63- Peugeot 306 Rallye 64- Audi RS4 (VCool 65- Porsche 993 GT2 66- Ferrari 250 GTO 67- Mini Cooper S (original 1960s) 68- TVR Sagaris 69- Koenigsegg CCX 70- Missan Skyline GT-R R33 71- McLaren F1 72- TVR Tuscan mk2 73- Porsche 959 74- BMW E39 M5 75- Peugeot 106 Rallye 76- Mini Cooper S (MkI New Mini) 77- Wiesmann GT MF5 78- Lancia Fulvia HF 79- Ferrari 612 Scaglietti 80- Ford Escort RS2000 81- Bugatti Veyron 82- BMW E34 M5 83- Aston V8 Vantage N400 84- Lancia Integrale 85- Audi Quattro (UrQ) 86- Nissan 350Z 87- Vauxhall VX220 88- Jaguar XJ220 89- VW Golf GTI (Mk 1&2) 90- Ford Escort Cosworth 91- Bugatti EB110 92- Aston Martin Vanquish S 93- Ferrari F355 F1 Berlinetta 94- BMW E60 M5 95- Jaguar XKR 96- TVR Cerbera Speed Six 97- Ford Sierra Cosworth 98- Volkswagen Corrado VR6 99- Ford Puma 1.7 100- Toyota MR2 Mk1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forrest 35 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Imagine how different the list would look if it was top drivers cars Joe Bloggs could afford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjay 8 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Or the top 100 drivers cars available to the NZ Mass market Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uhlsta 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 9 - Mazda MX-5. Seriously!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjs 64 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 9 - Mazda MX-5. Seriously!!!! Yep. Have you ever driven one? I would love to own one - but if only I wouldn't look like such a fag when driving it! When the hard top depreciates a bit I will seriously consider buying one, but will need some dark tint on the windows... As for the rest of the list, once you get outside the top 20 it is pretty arbitray. The list is (as to be expected) very Brit focussed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ari Gold Report post Posted August 27, 2009 interesting to note many of the top 20 have been either long termers or owned by the Evo staff. My favourite mag, I have ever issue from 65. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Braeden320 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 9 - Mazda MX-5. Seriously!!!! We have a 98 MX5, 6spd manual, 1800cc.My partner mainly drives it on the weekend, I just jump in it for some funnow and again. I admit I feel a bit strange driving it but in all honesty in sticks like sh*t to a blanket and goes very, very well. Looks aside, Take one for a decent drive and you will be surprised!Gives cars with twice its power a run for there money on a decent bit of road.Dont knock it till you have tried it as they say. Massive bang for buck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRTDVL 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) 5- RenaultSport Megane R26.R <--- basically Grahams car 7- RenaultSport Clio Trophy 23- Peugeot 205 GTI <--- mine - whooo! 25- Renault Clio V6 30- Renault Clio Williams 55- Renault Alpine A610 61- RenaultSport Clio 200 Cup 63- Peugeot 306 Rallye 75- Peugeot 106 Rallye Thats a fair number of renaults in the top 30... and whoo frenchies! Forrest... 75, 63, 23 = all sub 8-9k Edited August 27, 2009 by DRTDVL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brockie123 31 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 seems pretty fair in my opinion.. maybe put the e30 m3 closer to the top.. i dunno if it is me but e30's are not only so awesome looking but (not the best car) but the funnest car i have ever driven. i have driven pretty much every factory bmw that would go through a dealership and by far the most fun is the e30. glad it was the top of all the other bmw's.. i'm pretty biased though. that's probaly because i just went for a hoon in mine and i'm pretty happy. sorry to rant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
my_e36 43 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 erm... where's the Honda S2000, could be in place of the Elan or the MX5 Why is the R33 GTR on but not the R34 or even the R35? NSX is on there twice (Type-R and normal) That said, I would love to drive at least 10 of any car on this list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2078 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Some nice cars on that list. But don't agree with many of them. I think they have a Frog working for their list creation team though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c.robertson00 11 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 I would have thought a Caterham and an Ariel Atom would be more fun to drive than any of the others on the list. A Zonda in 1st place??? WTF? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grant 4 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 . A Zonda in 1st place??? WTF?Driven one?I would imagine that they would be pretty good fun. I do find it funny how many people on here agree/disagree with the list when they wouldn't have driven a vast majority of the cars on the list Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Thats a fair number of renaults in the top 30... and whoo frenchies! Forrest... 75, 63, 23 = all sub 8-9k Yea boy! And I was a as sceptical as anyone else when I read about how god the R26 was, im telling you Renault know how to make a car.. Driving an E30 afterwards feels like it’s constructed out of ply wood and half asleep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forrest 35 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Driving an E30 afterwards feels like it’s constructed out of ply wood and half asleep. Quoted for eternity. Take that back! Jokes there is a pearlecent yellow one round here with the F1 stripes near me, it looks goregous and sounds even better, happy to say I am a definite fan. Now, to convince Dad to replace one of the Focuses with one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fuzyfrog 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 The S2000 instead of the MX5 or Elan.... This is Top Drivers cars.... Great to see the 205 where it deserves to be. Having owned one it makes sense. Not so sure about number 1 but ive never been in a Zonda so i have no idea. Been in 7 of the top 10 though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c.robertson00 11 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Driven one? I would imagine that they would be pretty good fun. I do find it funny how many people on here agree/disagree with the list when they wouldn't have driven a vast majority of the cars on the list I get what your saying but would it be more fun to drive a Caterham around some twisty back roads or a big ass lump of Zonda? I would have the Caterham. But thats just my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1043 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Nissan GT-R over the m3's ?? wtf Most people agree the GTR is awesome but far from a 'drivers' car. Its does everything for you. I would of thought the definition of a drivers car was something that brings lots of enjoyment when driven enthusiastically. Ford Sierra Cosworth at #97 ???? Renault Clio V6 at # 25???? erm .. over some of the others on that list ? maybe the title should be EVO mag UK - Top 100 Drivers Cars as voted by joe public! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) Renault Clio V6 as in the mid engine sports car thinly disguised as a hatchback.. Ids believe it’s a good drive. Haven’t driven most of the cars on that list but their team has, im thinking them a better judge than us. Had a BMW made the top ten you lot would be loving the list Lol at fan boys. Edited August 27, 2009 by Apex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyarab 6 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 E36 M3 not even on the list, whats up with that shiiii Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2078 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Renault Clio V6 as in the mid engine sports car thinly disguised as a hatchback.. Ids believe it’s a good drive. Haven’t driven most of the cars on that list but their team has, im thinking them a better judge than us. Had a BMW made the top ten you lot would be loving the list Lol at fan boys. What do you expect. Your on a BMW site remember. You wouldn't be so happy if you pretty much unknown in NZ frog mobile had not been included. I am starting to think this list is nothing more than a public voted one. There is cars in there that have superior models. Good example of this is the Evo 6.5. The Evo 8 and 9 are far superior in every way. Yet still drive just like the older Evo's. The R33 GTR. Worst of the bunch. It is all personal preference. There is many FWD cars on there. I would never vote for any FWD car as a drivers car. They are nothing but Yawn in my books no matter how fast they are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 What do you expect. Your on a BMW site remember. You wouldn't be so happy if you pretty much unknown in NZ frog mobile had not been included. I am starting to think this list is nothing more than a public voted one. There is cars in there that have superior models. Good example of this is the Evo 6.5. The Evo 8 and 9 are far superior in every way. Yet still drive just like the older Evo's. The R33 GTR. Worst of the bunch. It is all personal preference. There is many FWD cars on there. I would never vote for any FWD car as a drivers car. They are nothing but Yawn in my books no matter how fast they are. I would have thought the Nissan 200SX Spec-R and the Toyota Trueno/Levin/Corolla AE86 would have maybe been included, both are a nice drive, the AE86 more so. If you had have told me that a FWD isn’t a driver’s car last year I would have agreed with you, hell I would have been your vice president on the campaign stating they are for girls and people scared of oversteer but after my late discovery of French cars I have to disagree. I don’t understand the R33 being in there either, it’s better than the R32 but pales in comparison to the R34. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRTDVL 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) It is all personal preference. There is many FWD cars on there. I would never vote for any FWD car as a drivers car. They are nothing but Yawn in my books no matter how fast they are. Yawn mobiles? It really depends on what you want from a car... I call it the jermey clarkson syndrome... Everyone wants to be going sideways in clouds of smoke, because that what makes a car fun... my personal preferance is none of that... i'm not interested in burnouts, donuts, drag racing (unless top level stuff)... to me it's all about getting from a to b very very quickly... So what i consider a good car is very different than a drifter/clarkson type person. there are many fwd cars that will excel in the style of driving i like, and things like changing direction and ability to carry speed through a corner mean more to me than being able to do 700kph but 20kph through a corner... i take it you haven't pushed an above mentioned fwd car? Really comes down to what makes a drivers car??? It doesn't have to be fast, the best, or anything... just driving pleasure... they are trying to cater to a large varity of drivers... It would be interesting to see the scoring guide that they used. the fwd = crap handling mentality really needs to be changed... espically when you look at what the old super 2000 rally cars where doing on tarmac compared to the wrc cars at the time. i personally think clarkson is the WORST thing to happen to the automotive world in a long time... corner speed sorts the men from the boys, not straight line speed... P.S V6 Clio = RWD Edited August 27, 2009 by DRTDVL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRTDVL 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 If you had have told me that a FWD isn’t a driver’s car last year I would have agreed with you, hell I would have been your vice president on the campaign stating they are for girls and people scared of oversteer but after my late discovery of French cars I have to disagree. Eurosport thread.... You wen't VP you where the President... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1043 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 the fwd = crap handling mentality really needs to be changed... espically when you look at what the old super 2000 rally cars where doing on tarmac compared to the wrc cars at the time. I don't think its a mentallity that FWD cars are crap at handling, just that its a FWD and its not a RWD and not as fun. Not so much a whos quicker blah blah. Anyways, back on topic Would be interested to see where the stats came from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
