antil33t 90 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 So, here we are about to remove the auto box from the Dead M20. What tool do I use? it's some odd looking thing. Cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e30ftw 410 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Torx headed bolts? You can usually fit 12point sockets over them. Much easier when out of the car too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 What size torx? Gonna go out and buy one. Socket wouldn't move it without possible stripping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravo 35 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 2 sizes. But forget which two, sorry. Large ones on main bellhousing, and smaller ones on inspection cover. PS - if you're doing it in the car, some long drive extensions are mandatory, and a universal optional, but very, very handy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e30ftw 410 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) E10 and E14 IIRC, or 8mm / 11mm 12point sockets. My bellhousing bolts are 19mm hex head. Much easier. Edited December 8, 2009 by e30ftw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravo 35 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 You can buy fairly cheap (but functional) sets covering a range of sizes from the likes of Repco. You probably won't use them often enough to need to buy expensive ones. Most of my tools are decent, but I have some powerbuilt torx sockets and I've yet to damage one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e30ftw 410 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 I went to buy a set of torx sockets from Repco a while back, They didn't sell any seperate so I was going to buy a set. The cheapest set was like $70. I was like F that, I don't have THAT many use for them to justify buying a set. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2132 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 I went to buy a set of torx sockets from Repco a while back, They didn't sell any seperate so I was going to buy a set. The cheapest set was like $70. I was like F that, I don't have THAT many use for them to justify buying a set. sam here i used an 11mm and a 14mm, one size bigger than the normal size E30s use for everything! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravo 35 Report post Posted December 8, 2009 I know what you're saying, but $70 is bloody cheap compared to buying decent brands. And a heap cheaper than paying someone else to remove the gearbox for you. DIY is cheap, but it's not free. I've bought individual sockets for over $30 when I've needed something unusual, and don't want crap that might break. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 got a set for 50 bucks! has everything we need, but it's 3/8" and we only have a ratchet and bar, which we managed to break the bar... only a couple more to remove but f**k the one at the top is tight. anyways, my new motor arrived. it's filthy as f**k and the loom is uber messy, I think I'll swap looms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e30ftw 410 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Degrease the mofo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Fuuu, Looms are different. the throttle position sensor on the B25 is different to the one on the B20. the B25 loom is for an E34, so it's not going to be very tidy if I use it. nor will the ECU beable to fit where it should, nor will I have a rubber bung to seal the hole (lol) Can I swap the whole position sensor? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e30ftw 410 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 I have a sensor if you want it, just $3.50 for postage and it's yours.. Just 2 screws and it changes over. You may have to remove the throttle body to swap it though. Does your one have a circle 6 pin plug? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 I have a sensor if you want it, just $3.50 for postage and it's yours.. Just 2 screws and it changes over. You may have to remove the throttle body to swap it though. Does your one have a circle 6 pin plug? Yep, the B25 doesn't. will swap em over' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e30ftw 410 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Whoops yeah you already have a sensor lol. My bad. Those e34 throttle sensors on the m20 are variable Throttle position sensors for the auto box. E30 one is just a wide open throttle switch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wom 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 I've bought individual sockets for over $30 when I've needed something unusual, and don't want crap that might break.yea bought a few of thosequite interesting the blank looks I got when asking for a 36mm socket Supercheap - "uh there's no such thing" Repco - "uh what the heck do you need that for? Don't think we have them but could probably order one in" Road & Track (mate's work) - "yea sweet as bro, here you go" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 My dads about the same, he won't buy sh*t that's not going to last. Allthough My mate broke a strongbar trying to get the trans off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iSO 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 yea bought a few of those quite interesting the blank looks I got when asking for a 36mm socket Supercheap - "uh there's no such thing" Repco - "uh what the heck do you need that for? Don't think we have them but could probably order one in" Road & Track (mate's work) - "yea sweet as bro, here you go" hahah i LOL at their failure. My dads about the same, he won't buy sh*t that's not going to last. Allthough My mate broke a strongbar trying to get the trans off. he must have strongarms haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 anyone know how to get the Spigot out of the engine xD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c.robertson00 11 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Spigot bearing??? Use a dyna-bolt from Mitre 10. Get one that is the diameter of the hole and wind it up then it expands and pulls the bearing out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Sweet, will try that tomorrow! Not much left to do now.... just got to clean it, and put the loom back on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Another sh*t question xD Do i need to replace the flywheel bolts? torque setting should be 105nm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark247 39 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 I've never replaced the flywheel bolts. But use locktite on them. You are replacing the spigot bearing I guess? One other way you can remove them is by packing the with grease from behind with a grease gun and pushing it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 I'm removing the spigot because I'm a girl and using an automatic Couldn't afford a manual conversion haha. with the automagic the flywheel thing is more like a starter wheel and that's it? hence just torqued properly and loctite might be fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark247 39 Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Yeah just torque it up to the propper specs and use locktite. Autos dont have a flywheel, they just have that plate the starter works off, correct. Just put it all back togeather with all the other little plates and stuff that went with it and the torque converter and do it up properly. Use your old bolts from the b20 auto because they will be a different length than the b25 flywheel ones ( if it came with any ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites