liyi_92 37 Report post Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) My car was idling rough and would take a long time to start/crank especially when it was warm. Took it to Kevin Burt Ltd. They did a diagnostic check ($130) and found no faults. They then started having a look around an found oil leaking from the rocker cover gasket in which the oil started to build up in the spark plug recesses. Told me that should be the problem. They changed the rocker cover gaskets, seals and spark plugs ($923 total in which $480 is labour cost). Got it back, still rough idles and takes ages to start up. Feels no different from before except knowing the fact that I have new seals and spark plugs What else could cause this? Anyone have the same problems? I checked my air filter seems clean. Leaks from elsewhere? =( Edited November 20, 2012 by andy_e39 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted October 4, 2012 Possibly MAF sensor... they sometimes don't throw a fault code. You need to drive it and check live data. Should read around 600kg at WOT under load Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westy 614 Report post Posted October 4, 2012 Dizzy cap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nath 134 Report post Posted October 4, 2012 Possibly MAF sensor... they sometimes don't throw a fault code. You need to drive it and check live data. Should read around 600kg at WOT under load My 1.9L 318iS had a STUFFED maf, and did not throw any codes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liyi_92 37 Report post Posted October 4, 2012 Update: let it idle for a while this morning with the hood up. saw some burnt oil smoke coming somewhere below/near cylinder 4. Also just after start up there is a very stong exhaust smell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted October 4, 2012 Update: let it idle for a while this morning with the hood up. saw some burnt oil smoke coming somewhere below/near cylinder 4. Also just after start up there is a very stong exhaust smell That could be residue from the work previously done, or else it's still leaking from the rocker cover Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liyi_92 37 Report post Posted November 20, 2012 Would a faulty MAF cause long crank time only when warm? I am also wondering about cam sensor but again, long crank only occurs when engine is warm No CEL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) If it's not throwing fault codes Rough idle: I would check coils- shorting to earth sometimes doesn't throw a fault code Smooth running test in live data should identify the problem cylinder Hard starting hot: Check for air leaks. Check fuel pressure at pump and after fuel filter. Check MAF live data Has the PVC valve been replaced on this car ? If not, test or get it tested Edited November 20, 2012 by *Glenn* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted November 20, 2012 I am also wondering about cam sensor but again, long crank only occurs when engine is warm No CEL. A cam sensor could cause that, however it would also throw a fault code. Just because the CEL light doesn't come on doesn't mean there is no fault code stored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etwenty1 45 Report post Posted November 20, 2012 My car was idling rough and would take a long time to start/crank especially when it was warm. Took it to Kevin Burt Ltd. They did a diagnostic check ($130) and found no faults. They then started having a look around an found oil leaking from the rocker cover gasket in which the oil started to build up in the spark plug recesses. Told me that should be the problem. They changed the rocker cover gaskets, seals and spark plugs ($923 total in which $480 is labour cost). Got it back, still rough idles and takes ages to start up. Feels no different from before except knowing the fact that I have new seals and spark plugs What else could cause this? Anyone have the same problems? I checked my air filter seems clean. Leaks from elsewhere? =( Is there any reason why you haven't taken it back to the Mechanic saying that they have not fixed the fault. A qualified/experienced mechanic should be able to diagnose and fix, not take a grand off you and then replace some random parts. They should also test the car before handing it back to you. BTW i recently bought a rocker cover gasket set for my E39 and it was $80 from the dealer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted November 20, 2012 ^ his is a V8, It's like doing two M42's strapped together and twice as annoying due to space. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites