sam726 29 Report post Posted September 28, 2013 Hi Everyone,I'm looking at purchasing an E24 as a classic daily driver. Specifically i have a 1979 633CSI Manual on my list. I have owned an E34, E36, E46 but nothing as old as the E24.I suppose i just want to know what to look out for when getting more information from the current owner, what major problems present themselves and also where the main places are to check for rust. Also i understand there are a few changes on the older ones (like what i'm looking at) compared to newer models so any disadvantages of going for an older model would also be good to know.Basically any hints, tips, advantages, disadvantages and opinions from current or past owners would be awesome! Cheers, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yng_750 247 Report post Posted September 28, 2013 Expect crappy mileage and horrible rust, especially if its Ex UK. My father had a 635csi. Looked ok but sills and bottom of the doors had rusted out pretty badly, Also his had metric wheels so tyres were a bitch to find. Dont know much else sorry, except they look amazing with a little work like front lip etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sam726 29 Report post Posted September 28, 2013 Expect crappy mileage and horrible rust, especially if its Ex UK. My father had a 635csi. Looked ok but sills and bottom of the doors had rusted out pretty badly, Also his had metric wheels so tyres were a bitch to find. Dont know much else sorry, except they look amazing with a little work like front lip etc Yeh I've heard about rust. It's ex-Germany from 1987. The guy said he has done the rust in the front two guards, next to the struts and said there's nothing structural apart from that, only a small bit of surface rust on one of the doors. I don't think it has metric wheels as they are off a newer shape M model. Looking amazing is one of the main reasons i want one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lord_jagganath 421 Report post Posted September 28, 2013 Watch that surface rust carefully, also undercarriage rust too. so I suppose it is LHD? salty roads in germany too. the E12 based E24 is a nice machine but personally, I'd look at a post '85 machine, but that's me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Hmm, after you buy it, Id be expecting ya to have lots of loooong conversations about it with admirers when you are out & about in it......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1662 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Personally id be wanting at least a '82\83 635csi with the E28 suspension and the stronger M30 engine, parts & upgrades would be alot harder to get otherwise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sam726 29 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Watch that surface rust carefully, also undercarriage rust too. so I suppose it is LHD? salty roads in germany too. the E12 based E24 is a nice machine but personally, I'd look at a post '85 machine, but that's me. I'm waiting for more photos & info about the car but from what i hear its mainly one spot on one of the doors. Its actually RHD which i don't completely understand myself since carjam says imported from Germany 1987, so been in NZ most of its life. Looking at parts online at eBay and others it seems a lot of things such as suspension arms might show as only suitable for 1983+, so is it fair to say that the main suspension setups changed around early-mid 80's? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sam726 29 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Personally id be wanting at least a '82\83 635csi with the E28 suspension and the stronger M30 engine, parts & upgrades would be alot harder to get otherwise. I'm starting to think this too. Didn't realise just how extensive the changes were between different models of E24. The one I'm looking at seems like a great deal, but maybe for good reason since its harder to upkeep than a later shape E24. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM WORLD 1283 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 double check where its from lost of imports came from UK in the earlty days if the speedo is in miles then most likely from the uk just check on car jam . where is the car i may know it?? you need to get these cars up on a hoist to check the underside , you can spend a lot of money on rust etc. also yes the later e28 based chasis is normally better bet most body parts , lights , trim is all e24 specific , rare and expensive , mechanical and some electrical stuff is not too bad to get especially if its the later e28 based stuff 1982 onwards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sam726 29 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 double check where its from lost of imports came from UK in the earlty days if the speedo is in miles then most likely from the uk just check on car jam . where is the car i may know it?? you need to get these cars up on a hoist to check the underside , you can spend a lot of money on rust etc. also yes the later e28 based chasis is normally better bet most body parts , lights , trim is all e24 specific , rare and expensive , mechanical and some electrical stuff is not too bad to get especially if its the later e28 based stuff 1982 onwards I think I've now talked myself out of the one i wanted. Would be best to try and find a nice later model E24 Was thinking about this: http://www.autotrader.co.nz/used-cars-for-sale/bmw-633csi/1133717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM WORLD 1283 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 I think I've now talked myself out of the one i wanted. Would be best to try and find a nice later model E24 Was thinking about this: http://www.autotrader.co.nz/used-cars-for-sale/bmw-633csi/1133717 looks ok , cheap enough too for a manual car 633i has less power of corse i think about 200hp where as the 635csi have 218hp 310Nm another cheap early one. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-611347341.htm also early ones have funny brake setups .. here's a nice one , easy enough to convert to manual with the correct gearbox and pedal box etc . http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-637561406.htm just be prepaired to keep it a long time and have some money set aside to tidy/service and change/fix things etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 I like the last one, but needs the first one's wheels on it........... NZ new counts for lots in my book, particularly at that age - even though kms are up a bit, its never seen salt on a road anywhere, although you can'nt cover yourself completely in that it may have lived by a beach sometime in it's life I suppose. I think its probably 1k or so too expensive with its current price. The LHD one at Turners has been for sale for ages, & gets progressively cheaper as time marches on. I'd avoid it personally, no matter how cheap it gets - LHD is a PITA, & in comparison with the NZ new one - it'll always be a bit of a orphan really I think... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonesrp 63 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 The 635 would be the better bet surely..and why get a left hooker ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 would only consider a late late one,unfortunately nice ones are rare and will command a good price Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sam726 29 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 looks ok , cheap enough too for a manual car 633i has less power of corse i think about 200hp where as the 635csi have 218hp 310Nm another cheap early one. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-611347341.htm also early ones have funny brake setups .. here's a nice one , easy enough to convert to manual with the correct gearbox and pedal box etc . http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-637561406.htm just be prepaired to keep it a long time and have some money set aside to tidy/service and change/fix things etc Think I've been strayed away from getting one now, especially an earlier generation one. I thought that parts were not too bad to find, looking at the likes of eBay and such, but infact now i can see the difficulty in getting parts for those based off an E12! would only consider a late late one,unfortunately nice ones are rare and will command a good price Theres an M635CSI on TradeMe asking for 30K so i know what you mean! Think I'll stay away from an E24, now that I've thought about it more. Will be in the market for a nice daily drive E46/E39 to tie me over until next year, once someone finall buys my Mazda that is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites