Haitoman 110 Report post Posted January 1, 2014 This car looks really nice (and expensive)...BUT...the seller states that he has always run it on Gull 98. Now I am led to believe that ethanol mix fuels are not recommended for the e46 M3, or indeed for any pre-2006 cars. Does anyone know anything about the effects (good or bad) of running the e46 M3 on Gull 98? http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-679474028.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingkarl 136 Report post Posted January 1, 2014 Fallacy, mate. “E10 fuels can safely be used in all BMW passenger cars from any model year. Irrespective of the ethanol content, however, the minimum octane rating as specified in the user manual must be observed as before, since some older BMW models require Super Plus RON 98 to reduce knock,” says the German auto maker. “All oil-change intervals as prescribed by us remain unchanged, irrespective of the use of E10 fuel.” http://www.autoevolution.com/news/bmw-cars-can-cope-with-e10-fuel-32393.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3_Power 636 Report post Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) It's fine on force 10. There are guys in Brazil running E100 (i.e 100% ethanol) on these engines without issues (modification required on injector and tune) Debatable about power gain ... But most likely worse mileage. Edited January 1, 2014 by M3_Power Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2068 Report post Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) Quite a noticeable jump on the ST HiTech dyno between BP98 and Force 10. They tested it and got nearly a 10rwkw gain on a 200rwkw car. Tuned to the fuel of course. sh*t thing is that the fuel is not common outside of Auckland. Not all Gulls have it. And not every town has a Gull. Edited January 5, 2014 by driftit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael. 2313 Report post Posted January 5, 2014 I used some Force 10 in Thames the other day, seemed to go well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff002 23 Report post Posted January 8, 2014 I stay with BP 98 for V8 e39.runs great.I can say it better than mobile 98. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffbebe 1559 Report post Posted January 8, 2014 Bio-ethanol can act as a cleaning agent for certain metal components I believe but is corrosive to rubber and plastic components (e.g injector seals). 10% ethanol won't be a big drama in 95 or 98 for most bimmers though. I use BP 98 which doesn't contain any ethanol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2068 Report post Posted January 8, 2014 I stay with BP 98 for V8 e39.runs great.I can say it better than mobile 98. In a road car. You won't notice any difference between the two. There would have to be something wrong with the fuel for you to notice. I would only choose Mobile over BP due to the min octain rating. BP can drop pretty low and I have experienced it on a few occasions. But even then I had a high compression turbo car and a knock sensor for indication of detonation increase. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffbebe 1559 Report post Posted January 8, 2014 In a road car. You won't notice any difference between the two. There would have to be something wrong with the fuel for you to notice. I would only choose Mobile over BP due to the min octain rating. BP can drop pretty low and I have experienced it on a few occasions. But even then I had a high compression turbo car and a knock sensor for indication of detonation increase. I've never seen a Mobil selling 98. The ones near me don't as far as I can tell. There is a Gull nearby. Maybe I'll try a bit of Force 10 for a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2068 Report post Posted January 8, 2014 It is the Purple pump handles. Called Synergy 8000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palazzo 474 Report post Posted January 8, 2014 I've never seen a Mobil selling 98. The ones near me don't as far as I can tell. There is a Gull nearby. Maybe I'll try a bit of Force 10 for a while. Mobil Pt Chev. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
central3 31 Report post Posted January 9, 2014 I had convinced myself that my M3 ran better on 98, brought 3 x 20 litre fuel cans and filled up when ever I was out of town, turned out my soleniod pack was faulty, now (logically) can't see anything between 95 and 98 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites