westy 614 Report post Posted August 11, 2015 I thought it was cause the Yanks didn't like the Frenchies. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoKer 58 Report post Posted August 11, 2015 So what is the point in basing fuel figures off l/100km anyway. I've always thought km per litre is easier to understand. this was my favorite part so far THIS is the best way to describe fuel usage/ but I am foing to rattle off all my statistics in the arrangement I said was worse =P & good form "3pedals" the metrics are my native language (child of the 80) had a feeling as soon as I posted about mass I had a slip-up great thread /read, Nerdy, pedantic & OCD enough you'd think BMW Pilots would have a better reputation as Parker's / Indicator / Road users Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neal 540 Report post Posted August 12, 2015 Got 23 l / 100 km around Taupo (m3) . First time I've seen an expected range of less than 300 km on a near full tank. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3_Power 636 Report post Posted August 12, 2015 A F1 engineer would say you lot are all wrong trying to measure fuel economy on volume rather than weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haitoman 110 Report post Posted August 12, 2015 How about we do it in metres/dollar. That way we can exaggerate our fuel figures just by going to a cheaper station eg. Mobil in Levin 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neal 540 Report post Posted August 12, 2015 Interesting concept My reckoning I have a Mini that owes me about $3k per meter A Ducati that is roughly 5 cents per meter A 328 that is .10 per meter and the M3 would be about $.15 per meter. Hopefully the wife doesn't read this otherwise two vehicles will have to go 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neal 540 Report post Posted August 13, 2015 The maintenance has been high. Bike spec is somewhere between R & RS. vavle train takes a hammering with RS cams Peak power is 12250 rpm rather than the usual 10 ish. Does 8 l / 100 km Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RustyItalian 11 Report post Posted August 13, 2015 working on old english and american things but for any science/ engineering or related discipline is a dog that should be buried. Except the aviation engineering industry which still firmly uses imperial. I think in thousandths of an inch up to around 2mm, them flick over to mm up to around 100mm, then think in inches up to around two feet then flick over to metric from there. What really throws me is people using stones for weight. I have *no* concept of what a stone is, kg all the way. Yet I think of height in feet and inches. Sigh... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoKer 58 Report post Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) I want Metric Time, would make excel spread-sheets way easier even that will throw a few "metrics" out like km/hr etc basically ruin society 30 mins plus 30 mins = 1 hour vs 50 mins + 50 mins = 100 minutes/1 metric hour Edited August 13, 2015 by JoKer 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2132 Report post Posted August 13, 2015 you are all wrong anyway. everyone knows its directly related to how big the fuel tank it is. Costs $60 to fill, must be economical! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allanw 1071 Report post Posted August 13, 2015 I want Metric Time, would make excel spread-sheets way easier Shame excel would still be sh*t though... all those "features" that change what you're trying to do, into exactly what you didn't want..... Have to deal with that, and Access on a daily basis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haitoman 110 Report post Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) you are all wrong anyway. everyone knows its directly related to how big the fuel tank it is. Costs $60 to fill, must be economical! If it costs $60.00 to fill, you filled the windscreen washer bottle!! Edited August 13, 2015 by Haitoman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoKer 58 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) I want Metric Time, would make excel spread-sheets way easier Tho I cant decide if a whole day should be 10 hours, 5 in morning & 5 in arvo OR 10 in morning & 10 in arvo (20 total doesn't seem to make sense/be metric) Edited August 15, 2015 by JoKer 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2132 Report post Posted August 15, 2015 Tho I cant decide if a whole day should be 10 hours, 5 in morning & 5 in arvo OR 10 in morning & 10 in arvo (20 total doesn't seem to make sense/be metric) Monday to Friday days basically go for 100 hours anyway so may as well make it that 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingkarl 136 Report post Posted August 27, 2015 You have had metric time since about the 1700's when they first started work on an integrtaed and linear measurement system which later became S.I. The silly thing is time is linear and constant but then try and divide it into a day and a year both of which at not consttant quite silly really Not constant due to leap seconds/years? Ignoring that a day is the time for the earth to rotate once relative to the sun. A year is the time taken for the earth to complete one orbit around the sun. Pretty good bases for measurement in my opinion. My subaru outback 2.5 does 15l/100km around town. DRZ400 does 6l/100km. I might as well buy a V8 with those numbers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2132 Report post Posted August 28, 2015 so how is a second defined? is it some atomic thing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hotwire 352 Report post Posted August 28, 2015 Just took the m on a 650km round trip to New Plymouth from Wellington on a tank of gas...that's a pretty damn fine 33mpg for 105-110km/hr on the open road. So this was quite good economy for this E46 M3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mynbmr 225 Report post Posted August 28, 2015 And here I am filling up my car to the top every time it needs filling and not worrying about anything. I always laugh when I c sum one put $20.00 in tank, by the time they get home the tank is empty again. My motto is keep tank full in case of an emergency. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2132 Report post Posted August 28, 2015 And here I am filling up my car to the top every time it needs filling and not worrying about anything. I always laugh when I c sum one put $20.00 in tank, by the time they get home the tank is empty again. My motto is keep tank full in case of an emergency. yes wel $20 of diesel for you would get you about 30m up the road lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haitoman 110 Report post Posted August 28, 2015 Just took the m on a 650km round trip to New Plymouth from Wellington on a tank of gas...that's a pretty damn fine 33mpg for 105-110km/hr on the open road. So this was quite good economy for this E46 M3 That only took four pages!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allanw 1071 Report post Posted August 28, 2015 So, how do I work out the imperial MPG on my electric bike? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmarco 56 Report post Posted August 29, 2015 In my broadcast days we had crystal controlled clocks that had the crystal in a miniature on board oven and they maintained an accuracy of 1x 10-12 ( that's pico seconds ( 1/millionth of a millionth of a second )) later ones were accurate to 10 -15 ( femto seconds) just so your TV pix were synchronised. That's still basically the way it's done today. There is a lot more electronic smarts in modern systems (particularly in network switches & telecommunications infrastructure) but they all still rely on quartz based OCXO's (Ovenised oscillators) for stable local references. In the data world, they also use master clocks at the centres of the telco networks (caesium or rubidium clocks) but still rely on quartz for on board local applications. The new generation of quartz based references (OCXO) are now approaching the lower performance end of atomic clock stability which is quite a stunning leap in the technology. And the better the performance of your reference, the more data you can move.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mynbmr 225 Report post Posted August 29, 2015 That only took four pages!! Yep and now we gone from mpg to atomic seconds and on page 6 we going time travel, I haven't got a clue watt they talking about, good reading though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haitoman 110 Report post Posted August 29, 2015 Yep and now we gone from mpg to atomic seconds and on page 6 we going time travel, I haven't got a clue watt they talking about, good reading though Yeh...or inter-stellar travel. I have my own theories on alien propulsion systems. Since the big bang the universe is expanding so I reckon they are not coming to us, they are braking and witing for us to catch up to them. Far more efficient. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted August 29, 2015 So, how do I work out the imperial MPG on my electric bike? it depends on the power stations that were in play at the time you charged it 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites