My545 25 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 My 04 545i is now running real rough. Started with just the odd what sounded like a miss fire when cold a couple a weeks ago and would soon come right and idle smoothly. Now it's constantly running rough, not 100% if it's a misfire, or running on 7 or what. I have tried cleaning the mass airflow sensor as one thing I might be able to do but made no difference. Any thoughts or suggestions greatly appreciated. I'm in Dunedin, if anyone here would be willing to help, yarn or suggest someone who may be able to help that would be great. I have just bought a K+DCAN cable to have a crack at trying to work out what might be wrong, but need to work out how to use that first too. Cheers Sam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My545 25 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) So Installed some software and plugged laptop into car with trepidation and got the following codes, screen shots etc. Any help deciphering this would be great. Maybe O2 sensors and a miss fire on 6 and 8. New coils maybe?? E R R O R M E M O R Y --------------------------------------Date: 10.03.2017 21:41:22 ECU: ME9N62 JobStatus: OKAY Variant: ME9N62 ------------------------------------------------------------RESULT: 7 error in error memory ! ------------------------------------------------------------27A0 CDKELS - Ansteuerung E-Box Luefter Error counter: 4 Logistic counter: 40 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 135944 km Motordrehzahl (nmot) 720.00 /min Motortemperatur (tmot) 46.50 Grad C Versorgungsspannung (ub) 14.13 V Fahrzeuggeschwindigkeit (vfzg_u) 0.00 km/h 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 135944 km Motordrehzahl (nmot) 880.00 /min Motortemperatur (tmot) 22.50 Grad C Versorgungsspannung (ub) 13.00 V Fahrzeuggeschwindigkeit (vfzg_u) 0.00 km/h 3. Umweltsatz Mileage 137512 km Motordrehzahl (nmot) 760.00 /min Motortemperatur (tmot) 17.25 Grad C Versorgungsspannung (ub) 13.66 V Fahrzeuggeschwindigkeit (vfzg_u) 3.00 km/h kein Signal oder Wert Testbedingungen erfüllt Fehler momentan vorhanden und bereits gespeichert Fehler würde kein Aufleuchten einer Warnlampe verursachen Diagnose aktiv Error code: 27 A0 64 01 00 00 04 28 42 61 12 7E 96 00 42 61 16 5E 8A 00 43 25 13 57 91 03 ------------------------------------------------------------27DA CDKDGEN - Generatorfehler Error counter: 3 Logistic counter: 15 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 136664 km Versorgungsspannung (ub) 13.28 V Generatorspannung (ugen) 15.00 V Motordrehzahl (nmot) 1560.00 /min vom Generator empf. Lastsignal (dffgen) 37.65 % 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 136784 km Versorgungsspannung (ub) 12.91 V Generatorspannung (ugen) 14.80 V Motordrehzahl (nmot) 840.00 /min vom Generator empf. Lastsignal (dffgen) 53.33 % 3. Umweltsatz Mileage 137016 km Versorgungsspannung (ub) 13.38 V Generatorspannung (ugen) 15.00 V Motordrehzahl (nmot) 720.00 /min vom Generator empf. Lastsignal (dffgen) 47.06 % Signal oder Wert oberhalb Schwelle Testbedingungen erfüllt Fehler momentan nicht vorhanden, aber bereits gespeichert Fehler würde kein Aufleuchten einer Warnlampe verursachen Diagnose aktiv Fehler in Entprellphase Error code: 27 DA 21 21 00 00 03 0F 42 BB 8D 2C 27 60 42 CA 89 2A 15 88 42 E7 8E 2C 12 78 ------------------------------------------------------------274E CDKMD - Aussetzererkennung, Summenfehler Error counter: 2 Logistic counter: 38 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 137496 km Motordrehzahl (nmot) 3400.00 /min relative Luftfuellung (rl) 87.75 % Motortemperatur (tmot) 72.00 Grad C Tankfuellstand (tfst) 15.00 l 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 137504 km Motordrehzahl (nmot) 920.00 /min relative Luftfuellung (rl) 30.75 % Motortemperatur (tmot) 11.25 Grad C Tankfuellstand (tfst) 14.00 l Signal oder Wert oberhalb Schwelle Testbedingungen erfüllt Fehler momentan nicht vorhanden, aber bereits gespeichert Fehler würde das Aufleuchten einer Warnlampe verursachen Diagnose aktiv Fehler in Entprellphase Error code: 27 4E A1 21 00 00 02 26 43 23 55 75 A0 0F 43 24 17 29 4F 0E FF FF FF FF FF FF ------------------------------------------------------------2745 CDKMD03 - Aussetzererkennung Zyl.8 P0308 Cylinder 8 Misfire Detected Error counter: 2 Logistic counter: 38 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 137496 km Motordrehzahl (nmot) 3400.00 /min relative Luftfuellung (rl) 87.75 % Motortemperatur (tmot) 72.00 Grad C Tankfuellstand (tfst) 15.00 l 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 137504 km Motordrehzahl (nmot) 920.00 /min relative Luftfuellung (rl) 30.75 % Motortemperatur (tmot) 11.25 Grad C Tankfuellstand (tfst) 14.00 l Signal oder Wert oberhalb Schwelle Testbedingungen erfüllt Fehler momentan nicht vorhanden, aber bereits gespeichert Fehler würde das Aufleuchten einer Warnlampe verursachen Diagnose aktiv Fehler in Entprellphase Error code: 27 45 A1 21 03 08 02 26 43 23 55 75 A0 0F 43 24 17 29 4F 0E FF FF FF FF FF FF ------------------------------------------------------------299B CDKDIBS1 - Kommunikation DME - IBS Error counter: 6 Logistic counter: 36 1. Umweltsatz Mileage 137504 km IBS-Fehler 1 (ibsderrs1) 59.00 bin IBS-Fehler 2 (ibsderrs2) 0.00 bin Motordrehzahl (nmot) 880.00 /min Versorgungsspannung (ub) 13.66 V 2. Umweltsatz Mileage 137504 km IBS-Fehler 1 (ibsderrs1) 59.00 bin IBS-Fehler 2 (ibsderrs2) 0.00 bin Motordrehzahl (nmot) 760.00 /min Versorgungsspannung (ub) 14.60 V 3. Umweltsatz Mileage 137504 km IBS-Fehler 1 (ibsderrs1) 59.00 bin IBS-Fehler 2 (ibsderrs2) 0.00 bin Motordrehzahl (nmot) 560.00 /min Versorgungsspannung (ub) 14.13 V Signal oder Wert oberhalb Schwelle Testbedingungen erfüllt Fehler momentan nicht vorhanden, aber bereits gespeichert Fehler würde kein Aufleuchten einer Warnlampe verursachen Diagnose aktiv Zyklus-Flag gesetzt Fehler in Entprellphase Error code: 29 9B 21 25 00 00 06 24 43 24 3B 00 16 91 43 24 3B 00 13 9B 43 24 3B 00 0E 96 ------------------------------------------------------------2783 CDKLM - Heissfilmluftmassenmesser Error counter: 1 Logistic counter: 38 Mileage 137512 km Motordrehzahl (nmot) 680.00 /min Ansauglufttemperatur (tans) -39.75 Grad C Winkel DK bez. auf DK-Anschl. (wdkba) 4.31 % DK ADC HFM (adhfm) 0.00 V Signal oder Wert unterhalb Schwelle Testbedingungen erfüllt Fehler bisher nicht aufgetreten Fehler würde kein Aufleuchten einer Warnlampe verursachen Diagnose aktiv Error code: 27 83 02 01 00 00 01 26 43 25 11 0B 0B 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF ------------------------------------------------------------27B8 ???? FS_LESEN_DETAIL: JobStatus: ERROR_TABLE ============================================================= E R R O R M E M O R Y ----------------------Date: 10.03.2017 21:19:18 Model: E60 Scope: all control module JobStatus: OKAY Quantity: 39 ----------------------------------------------------------------ADR Gen. name JobStatus 1B VVT ERROR_ECU_SERVICE_NOT_SUPPORTED 1E VVT2 ERROR_ECU_SERVICE_NOT_SUPPORTED ---------------------------------------------------------------- ADR Gen. name JobStatus Number of errors Error code Kind of error 00 ZGM OKAY No Error stored 01 SIM/SGM OKAY 3 Error stored 93C1 20 93CC 20 93CD 20 02 SZL OKAY No Error stored 05 STVL/TEFA OKAY No Error stored 06 STVR/TEBF OKAY No Error stored 0E SFZ OKAY No Error stored 12 DME/DDE OKAY 7 Error stored 27A0 64 27DA 21 274E A 1 2745 A 1 299B 21 2783 02 27B8 28 16 A FS OKAY 4 Error stored 6140 30 614A 30 CE93 30 CE99 38 18 EGS OKAY No Error stored 22 ???? OKAY No Error stored 29 DSC OKAY 1 Error stored 5F14 E0 36 TEL OKAY No Error stored 3C CDC OKAY No Error stored 3F A SK OKAY No Error stored 40 CAS OKAY No Error stored 41 DWA OKAY No Error stored 43 POW OKAY No Error stored 44 SHD OKAY No Error stored 45 RLS OKAY No Error stored 47 A NTTU OKAY No Error stored 4B VIDEO OKAY No Error stored 50 SINE OKAY No Error stored 60 KOMBI OKAY No Error stored 62 MOSTGW OKAY 2 Error stored E18C 20 E18F 20 63 MMI/CCC OKAY No Error stored 64 PDC OKAY No Error stored 65 BZM/SZM OKAY No Error stored 67 EC OKAY No Error stored 6D FAS OKAY No Error stored 6E BFS OKAY No Error stored 70 LM OKAY No Error stored 72 KBM OKAY No Error stored 73 CID OKAY No Error stored 78 KLIMA OKAY 1 Error stored 9C54 64 A0 ???? OKAY No Error stored A1 SBSL OKAY No Error stored A2 SBSR OKAY No Error stored ================================================================= Edited March 10, 2017 by My545 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 new spark plugs and coils should do it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My545 25 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 10 hours ago, qube said: new spark plugs and coils should do it Cheers, all eight? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 Open them up and check the condition. I would do all of them and know they are all good than fix a couple to have a few more fails a month later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olaf 3317 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 it's the gehberhrenschitver valvugolpen. it's gefingerpokened kaputzezechtenarbened. Assume the position and open your wallet, buddy. /serious mode on Kyu's analysis seems reasonable place to start. What's a set of coils for the N62 worth? Oh, under USD200 for the new Bosch design, seems reasonable. Definitely no vacuum leaks? And your battery is strong and tests well yeah? cheers 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My545 25 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 2 hours ago, qube said: Open them up and check the condition. I would do all of them and know they are all good than fix a couple to have a few more fails a month later. Cheers, SuperCheap auto have coils and plugs for $1250, anywhere do it better than that, seems pretty high or am I just really naïve, ignorant and cheap? probably all three. I'm no mechanic or fool, but with a few YouTube vids are they easy enough to replace yourself? Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My545 25 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, Olaf said: it's the gehberhrenschitver valvugolpen. it's gefingerpokened kaputzezechtenarbened. Assume the position and open your wallet, buddy. /serious mode on Kyu's analysis seems reasonable place to start. What's a set of coils for the N62 worth? Oh, under USD200 for the new Bosch design, seems reasonable. Definitely no vacuum leaks? And your battery is strong and tests well yeah? cheers Haha cheers, getting cold feet about this Beemer thing already!!! $1250 for plugs and coils at Super Cheap, $200 USD sounds better, what site please? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My545 25 Report post Posted March 10, 2017 Just now, My545 said: Haha cheers, getting cold feet about this Beemer thing already!!! $1250 for plugs and coils at Super Cheap, $200 USD sounds better, what site please? 25 minutes ago, Olaf said: it's the gehberhrenschitver valvugolpen. it's gefingerpokened kaputzezechtenarbened. Assume the position and open your wallet, buddy. /serious mode on Kyu's analysis seems reasonable place to start. What's a set of coils for the N62 worth? Oh, under USD200 for the new Bosch design, seems reasonable. Definitely no vacuum leaks? And your battery is strong and tests well yeah? cheers Not sure on vacuum leaks, had a good look around engine but don't really know what I'm looking for, assume battery OK. Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olaf 3317 Report post Posted March 11, 2017 50 minutes ago, My545 said: Haha cheers, getting cold feet about this Beemer thing already!!! $1250 for plugs and coils at Super Cheap, $200 USD sounds better, what site please? yeah Supercheap and Repco are good for oil, car care, and running your Holden or Falcon. For your Euro, you'll need a specialist supplier. First stop should be the forum's supporters/sponsors. As you're in Dunedin, you should try Milland. http://www.milland.co.nz - and they're right there in Dunedin! Euro Itallian are also said to be very good. I've often used www.fcpeuro.com - started buying parts from them 12 years ago soon after buying my Volvo. Seriously though, give Milland a call. You may find they have what you need at good prices. Hope that helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My545 25 Report post Posted March 11, 2017 49 minutes ago, Olaf said: yeah Supercheap and Repco are good for oil, car care, and running your Holden or Falcon. For your Euro, you'll need a specialist supplier. First stop should be the forum's supporters/sponsors. As you're in Dunedin, you should try Milland. http://www.milland.co.nz - and they're right there in Dunedin! Euro Itallian are also said to be very good. I've often used www.fcpeuro.com - started buying parts from them 12 years ago soon after buying my Volvo. Seriously though, give Milland a call. You may find they have what you need at good prices. Hope that helps. Yea cheers, ashamed to say I forgot about them and they're maybe six blocks away, although only on line. Used them a few years ago with E39. Thanks for reminding me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted March 11, 2017 fcp euro is cheap and quick (1 week delivery) and you have a range of different OEM or genuine to choose from at varying price points. Spark plugs i paid about $50nzd for a set of 6 ngk branded ones whereas locally they were about $35 each. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My545 25 Report post Posted March 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, qube said: fcp euro is cheap and quick (1 week delivery) and you have a range of different OEM or genuine to choose from at varying price points. Spark plugs i paid about $50nzd for a set of 6 ngk branded ones whereas locally they were about $35 each. Thanks for your help Kyu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
euroriffic 609 Report post Posted March 11, 2017 K&G McCloud up Waverly is the place to go with euro stuff. Bmw send a lot of stuff up to them. They'll be able to diagnose the issue without throwing money at guesses to what it could be. Did it come with much of a service history? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My545 25 Report post Posted March 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, euroriffic said: K&G McCloud up Waverly is the place to go with euro stuff. Bmw send a lot of stuff up to them. They'll be able to diagnose the issue without throwing money at guesses to what it could be. Did it come with much of a service history? Cheers, I just dropped it to my local garage on Hillside Road, will see what they say on Monday. Will keep K&G McCloud in mind definitely. Has service stamps from new, no information just that it's been done, have thought about trying to get history from previous garages up in Christchurch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2425 Report post Posted March 11, 2017 2 hours ago, My545 said: Cheers, I just dropped it to my local garage on Hillside Road, will see what they say on Monday. Something you will learn quickly with a BMW, is that unless its a basic oil change, taking it to your "local" isnt always a good idea. A good independent BMW specialist is the way to go. It may cost more in the hourly rate, but itll make up for it with a more accurate diagnosis and knowledge. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
