gjm 3258 Report post Posted August 30, 2017 Well, that should make for an interesting and lively debate! Not my line (although I do like the Mercedes) but (most of) the headline from another article: https://www.goodwood.com/grrc/columnists/dan-trent/2017/8/dan-trent-why-the-190e-2.3-16-is-better-than-the-e30-m3/ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MD13 492 Report post Posted August 30, 2017 Nice looking cars - family friends had one in the 90's. I think they might be even harder to find in NZ than an M3 though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allan 295 Report post Posted August 30, 2017 At the end of the day it all comes down to ones' personnel preference and how much molar you are willing to part with. A bit of behind the scenes dealing involved also so two heads are better than one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted August 31, 2017 The Merc looks terrible. Even for a 1980's car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted August 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, M3AN said: The Merc looks terrible. Even for a 1980's car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted August 31, 2017 36 minutes ago, gjm said: I'm loathe to say that it suffers the same problem as the E36 M3 (especially in sedan form). It looks like any ordinary sedan. The E30 M3 looks quite the opposite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted August 31, 2017 The article offers a slightly unfair comparison. The real Mercedes 190E racecar started with this: Still obviously a 190E (as an E30 M3 is obviously an E30) but with the purposeful re-styling that sets it apart. In my mind, at least! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted September 1, 2017 A couple of minutes of 190E DTM goodness: 190E DTM (1992).mp4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave@nz 11 Report post Posted September 1, 2017 They look real nice in real life and they did a good job of the leather seats, just a shame the 2.3L did not turn out to be collectable in comparison to the Sierra Cosworth or the M3. The 2.5 Evo2 is just sublime. https://mercedesheritage.com/mb-heritage/3546 http://www.autozine.org/Archive/Mercedes/classic/190E.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted September 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Dave@nz said: They look real nice in real life and they did a good job of the leather seats, just a shame the 2.3L did not turn out to be collectable in comparison to the Sierra Cosworth or the M3. An Evo2 for sale in the US - 'just' € 175.000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted September 1, 2017 And an Evo1 in the Netherlands - a relative bargain at £ 63900. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted September 7, 2017 Johnny Cecotto and Kalus Ludwig - DTM Historical http://www.sportschau.de/dtm/video-johnny-cecotto-und-klaus-ludwig---ein-historisches-dtm-duell--100.html And they still really don't hang about! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites