The Mercedes 190E 2.3-16 is better than the BMW E30 M3

[gjm 3258]

Well, that should make for an interesting and lively debate!

Not my line (although I do like the Mercedes) but (most of) the headline from another article:

https://www.goodwood.com/grrc/columnists/dan-trent/2017/8/dan-trent-why-the-190e-2.3-16-is-better-than-the-e30-m3/

[MD13 494]

Nice looking cars - family friends had one in the 90's. I think they might be even harder to find in NZ than an M3 though...

[allan 295]

At the end of the day it all comes down to ones' personnel preference and how much molar you are willing to part with. A bit of behind the scenes dealing involved also so two heads are better than one

[M3AN 4016]

The Merc looks terrible. Even for a 1980's car.

[gjm 3258]

7 minutes ago, M3AN said:

The Merc looks terrible. Even for a 1980's car.

[M3AN 4016]

36 minutes ago, gjm said:

I'm loathe to say that it suffers the same problem as the E36 M3 (especially in sedan form). It looks like any ordinary sedan.

The E30 M3 looks quite the opposite.

[gjm 3258]

The article offers a slightly unfair comparison.

The real Mercedes 190E racecar started with this:

Still obviously a 190E (as an E30 M3 is obviously an E30) but with the purposeful re-styling that sets it apart.

In my mind, at least!

[gjm 3258]

A couple of minutes of 190E DTM goodness:

190E DTM (1992).mp4

[Dave@nz 11]

They look real nice in real life and they did a good job of the leather seats, just a shame the 2.3L did not turn out to be collectable in comparison to the Sierra Cosworth or the M3.

The 2.5 Evo2 is just sublime.

https://mercedesheritage.com/mb-heritage/3546

http://www.autozine.org/Archive/Mercedes/classic/190E.html

[gjm 3258]

2 hours ago, Dave@nz said:

They look real nice in real life and they did a good job of the leather seats, just a shame the 2.3L did not turn out to be collectable in comparison to the Sierra Cosworth or the M3.

An Evo2 for sale in the US - 'just' € 175.000  

[gjm 3258]

And an Evo1 in the Netherlands - a relative bargain at £ 63900.

[gjm 3258]

Johnny Cecotto and Kalus Ludwig - DTM Historical

http://www.sportschau.de/dtm/video-johnny-cecotto-und-klaus-ludwig---ein-historisches-dtm-duell--100.html

And they still really don't hang about!