NZ00Z3 187 Report post Posted February 10, 2021 I'm chasing a rich (negative fuel trim) issue on my 2.0L Z3 with a M52TUB20 engine. The long term trims sit around -5.4% to -6.5% after being out for a drive. Let the car sit and idle for 15 minutes and the long term trims drop back to near zero. So, something changes when you are out driving it. Original airbox with new filter. Original O2 sensors. car has done 119,000 miles. Drives fine, no perceived lost of power. Thinking it could be the MAF. It has the common 3 wire MAF, Siemens 5WK9605 used on all of the M52TUB's and many M54's. A new VDO MAF is $350, so really want to know if it is the MAF before buying one. So, how do you test a MAF? Remember we are looking at a 5-6% error at 3,000 rpm when doing 100 kmph. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM WORLD 1283 Report post Posted February 10, 2021 vac leaks ? hoses , pcv , seals etc lots of places to look Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZ00Z3 187 Report post Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, BM WORLD said: vac leaks ? hoses , pcv , seals etc lots of places to look If it was a lean condition, I would agree with you Brent. Its a rich condition, so not enough air, too much fuel or a stuffed sensor fooling the DME into thinking its one of the first two. As the problem is present on both banks, fuel trims come to near zero when the car is idled, I looking at sensors more than leaking injectors etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM WORLD 1283 Report post Posted February 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, NZ00Z3 said: If it was a lean condition, I would agree with you Brent. Its a rich condition, so not enough air, too much fuel or a stuffed sensor fooling the DME into thinking its one of the first two. As the problem is present on both banks, fuel trims come to near zero when the car is idled, I looking at sensors more than leaking injectors etc. ok also check fuel reg and vac hose going to it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydoogle 383 Report post Posted February 11, 2021 Are you able to view and plot the maf readings? That's usually the "easy" way Should be reasonably linear under low load (in nuetral) I would expect to see above 3.5 gm/s and below 4.5 at idle If you have a non linear deviation then the fun starts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZ00Z3 187 Report post Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) MAF testing is difficult to understand Edited March 25, 2021 by NZ00Z3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BreakMyWindow 1874 Report post Posted February 11, 2021 If you have inpa you can check the maf’s performance in terms of how many kg’s of air is registered by it being drawn in to the cylinders. I have no clue how much that is for a b20tu engine. If the maf is bad I would think you’d get some noticeable symptoms and not just slight fuel enrichment. The engine would run better with the MAF unplugged than it were plugged in if it’s bad as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydoogle 383 Report post Posted February 11, 2021 That manual plot looks pretty decent, airflow deviations in the midrange like that would be consistent with vanos position Are you able to graph the o2 voltage and injector duty? I would certainly be doing a smoke test on the car, purely due to its age Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites