Schumacher

[jeffbebe 1559]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11179265

Shivers!

[Mr2low 57]

Fark, is about all I can say really

[pldubs 308]

f**k the world. This is so rank.

Edited December 30, 2013 by pldubs

[Phil-540i 166]

Crazy ae, especially given all the racing miles & TG stuff he did with no majors like this...........

[skidz 196]

Interesting Formula 1 fact, only one F1 Champion has died in a Formula One race, but several have died in other accidents, all the best, hope Schumi doesn't add to the list!

[Young Thrash Driver 1020]

Pretty shithouse, hope he pulls through.

The news reports already sound like eulogies....

[Mr2low 57]

Beg to differ upto Senna's death

Chet Miller Indianapolis 1953

Fifty-year-old Miller was the oldest driver on the track when he lost control of his Novi Special and piled into a concrete wall at over 100mph during practice. Shortly after the finish Carl Scarborough collapsed and died from heat exhaustion.

Onofre Marimón Germany 1954

Marimón failed to negotiate a sharp downhill turn at the Nurburgring during qualifying and his car hit a ditch, struck a tree and then rolled a number of times before coming to rest upside down. He was given the last rites at the scene and died soon after.

Manny Ayulo Indianapolis 1955

Practising for the race, it is believed his steering broke and he smashed into a concrete wall. He died from his injuries the following day.

Bill Vukovich Indianapolis 1955

The winner of the previous two Indy 500s, Vukovich was leading when he failed to avoid a crash ahead of him and his car was sent over the impact wall, landing nose first and then bursting into flames. He was killed instantly by a broken neck.

Keith Andrews Indianapolis 1957

Died from a broken neck while practising for the race when his car hit a wall at 136mph.

Pat O'Connor Indianapolis 1958

O'Connor was killed when his car flipped and caught fire as a result of a 15-car pile-up on the first lap of the race. There were eerie similarities with Vukovich's death three years earlier. Both drove blue No. 4 cars that started from fifth on the grid. Both climbed another car and burned.

Luigi Musso France 1958

lying in second place, he lost control of his Ferrari on a sweeping turn, hit a ditch and overturned at around 150mph. He was airlifted to hospital - the circuit at Reims was one of the first to have a helicopter on site - where he died soon after.

Peter Collins Germany 1958

One race later and Ferrari suffered a second blow when Collins, who was lying third in the drivers' championship, lost control while battling for the lead and his car careered into fencing. Collins was thrown out of the cockpit and hit a lone tree, dying later that day from a fractured skull.

Stuart Lewis-Evans Morocco 1958

Lewis-Evans' Vanwall engine seized and sent him crashing into barriers at high speed, his car bursting into flames. He was airlifted back to England on team boss Tony Vandervell's private plane but died in hospital of burns six days later. Despite winning the inaugural constructors' championship, Vandervell was so distraught he withdrew from racing, as, for a time, did Lewis-Evans' manager Bernie Ecclestone.

Jerry Unser Indianapolis 1959

Unser, who had been involved in the 15-car pile-up a year earlier, died when he lost control during a practice session, his car hitting a wall and then somersaulting down the track before exploding. He died of burns a fortnight later. The accident led to fire-resistant driving suits becoming mandatory.

Bob Cortner Indianapolis 1959

A veteran of midget racing, on only his second day of Indy racing his car was caught by a gust of wind and crashed. Cortner died of head injuries later in the day.

Harry Schell Great Britain 1960

Died practising for a non-championship event at Silverstone when his Cooper skidded in the wet and crashed into a brick wall which collapsed on top of him.

Chris Bristow Belgium 1960

A gruesome weekend at Spa started with serious crashes during practice (Stirling Moss sustaining broken legs in one). On the 20th lap of the race itself Bristow made an unforced error and was decapitated by a wire fence as his Cooper somersaulted. At 22 he remains the youngest driver to die in a championship race.

Alan Stacey Belgium 1960

Two laps later and Stacey died when his car crashed and caught fire. Some spectators, as well as his own mechanics, believed he was struck by a bird, knocking him unconscious seconds before the accident.

Wolfgang von Trips Italy 1961

von Trips, who had crashed at Monza in 1956 and 1958, went there needing third place to win the drivers' championship. But his car collided with Jim Clark's Lotus, lifted into the air and crashed into a barrier. von Trips was thrown from the cockpit and killed, along with 14 spectators who were packed just behind a track-side fence.

Ricardo Rodriguez Mexico 1962

Rodriguez had driven the season for Ferrari but the team opted to give the inaugural non-championship Mexican Grand Prix a miss, so, desperate to impress in the city of his birth, he took a drive in a Lotus. He misjudged a corner - witnesses said he was going too fast - his car turned and caught fire. He died en route to hospital. He was 20.

Gary Hocking South Africa 1962

Hocking had retired from motorbike racing earlier in the year after the death of a friend, switching to F1 which he thought would be safer. He died while practising for his debut race when his Lotus hit a ditch and somersaulted.

Carel Godin de Beaufort Germany 1964

He was thrown out of his Porsche when it inexplicably veered off the track and suffered massive head and chest injuries from which he died three days later.

John Taylor Germany 1966

His Brabham collided with Jacky Ickx's Matra on the first lap in heavy rain at the Nurburgring. Taylor was badly burned and died from his injuries five weeks later.

Lorenzo Bandini Monaco 1967

He was second when he lost control at the harbour chicane, his car turning upside down and skidding into straw bales before catching fire. He was pulled clear by marshals but suffered massive burns as well as serious chest injuries and died three days later.

Jo Schlesser France 1968

John Surtees had pronounced Honda's experimental RA302 car unsafe, but undaunted and with help from the company's French division, it was entered in the French Grand Prix and local driver Schlesser was hired to drive it. On the second lap the car slid wide at a corner and crashed into a bank, exploding on impact.

Gerhard Mitter Germany 1969

A relative F1 novice, Mitter was a very successful driver in other fields. He was hired by BMW to test their Formula Two cars and it was driving one of these ahead of the German Grand Prix at the Nurburgring that he crashed after a major suspension failure.

Piers Courage Netherlands 1970

Killed when he lost control of his car which ran up a grass bank, hit a fence and burst into flames. He was probably dead before then as a wheel came off on the initial impact and flew into the cockpit with enough force to remove Courage's helmet.

Jochen Rindt Italy 1970

The only man to win the drivers' championship posthumously, Rindt died during final practice at Monza when his car crashed into perimeter fencing and disintegrated. He had only just started wearing a seat belt and it is believed that as he slid down inside the cockpit it cut his throat. He also suffered massive leg injuries. The crash was in exactly the same place that von Trips had died nine years earlier.

Jo Siffert Great Britain 1971

A veteran of 100 Formula One starts, Siffert was killed in a non-championship race at Brands Hatch when the suspension on his BRM snapped causing him to crash. He was unable to get out of the car as it caught fire and died of smoke inhalation. A subsequent investigation revealed none of the track-side extinguishers had been working and the incident led to mandatory in-car extinguishers as well as piped air into the driver's helmet.

Roger Williamson Netherlands 1973

Williamson's car crashed and caught fire after suffering a puncture. As he lay trapped in the overturned and burning vehicle, David Purley stopped his own car and sprinted to help, diving into the flames to try to free Williamson, who was calling out for help. As marshals stood by unable to help because of the heat, Purley ran across the track, grabbed an extinguisher and desperately tried to put out the fire before eventually being dragged away. It took eight minutes for the fire engine to arrive by which time Williamson had died of asphyxiation. Spectators had also tried to clamber to assist Purley only to be driven back by police with dogs. Purley was awarded the George Medal for his actions.

Francois Cevert USA 1973

The hugely talented Cevert's car clipped a kerb during Saturday practice at Watkins Glen and was knocked into the safety barriers, causing it to spin headlong into loose barriers on the other side of the track. He died instantly of massive injuries. His team-mate, mentor and friend Jackie Stewart, who had already won the world title, quit there and then ahead of what would have been his final race.

Peter Revson South Africa 1974

Suspension failure during a practice session led to a massive crash in which Revson was killed. His brother Doug died seven years earlier in a Formula Three accident in Denmark.

Helmuth Koinigg USA 1974

A year after Cevert's death and once again insecure barriers at Watkins Glen were partly to blame as Koinigg missed a turn, ploughed through the safety fence and into a barrier. Instead of it stopping him, his car went under it and he was decapitated.

Mark Donohue Austria 1975

Donohue lost control of his March during a practice session and careered into fencing. A marshal was killed by flying debris but it was thought Donohue was alright. However, he suffered from a worsening headache and the next day went to hospital where he lapsed into a coma and died from a brain haemorrhage. It was believed his head had struck a wooden fence post during the crash.

Tom Pryce South Africa 1977

As two marshals crossed the track to deal with a small fire in a stopped car, four cars, including Pryce's came round the bend. The lead car swerved to avoid the second marshal but Pryce had no chance to avoid hitting him at 170mph. An extinguisher the marshal was carrying was thrown in the air and struck Pryce in the head, partially decapitating him. His car slowly coasted to a stop, eventually careering back onto the track after hitting barriers. The injuries to the marshal were so severe he was only identified when all his colleagues were called together after the race and he was the one missing.

Ronnie Peterson Italy 1978

A mass collision on the first bend of the race at Monza left Peterson with severe leg injuries, although when he was pulled from his blazing car by three other drivers it seemed his injuries were serious but not life-threatening. But as Peterson lay on the tarmac, track officials hampered attempts to get an ambulance to him and it was a quarter of an hour before medical aid arrived. There was more concern for Vittorio Brambilla, who had head injuries, and he was the first to be treated, and fortunately he made a full recovery. At the hospital surgeons, with Peterson's agreement, operated that night to stabilise ten fractures in his legs. However, during the night bone marrow went into his bloodstream through the fractures leading to him suffering full renal failure. He died the next morning.

Gilles Villeneuve Belgium 1982

At the end of qualifying, Villeneuve's car ploughed into the back of the slower-moving Jochen Mass and was catapulted into the air at around 140mph before ploughing into the ground and disintegrating as it spun to a stop. He was found in the catch fence, still strapped to his seat but without his helmet. He suffered a fatal fracture of the neck.

Riccardo Paletti Canada 1982

In only his second race Paletti crashed at 100mph into the back of Didier Pironi who had stalled on the grid, suffering severe chest injuries. Medical aid was on the scene in seconds but his full fuel tank then ignited, enveloping Paletti in flames (such was the effectiveness of the fire-retardant overalls that he suffered no burns). It took another 25 minutes to cut him out of the wreckage but he died soon after arriving at a nearby hospital.

Roland Ratzenberger San Marino 1994

His front wing broke during qualifying at Imola, causing him to crash into the Villeneuve corner at over 190mph. He died of a basal skull fracture. He had damaged the wing on the previous lap but had decided to continue as he was in the hunt for the final grid spot.

Ayrton Senna San Marino 1994

Twenty-four hours later, Senna died when his car failed to negotiate a sharp corner and slammed into a concrete wall at around 135mph. He died from severe head injuries. As officials examined the wreckage they found a furled Austrian flag which, had he won, Senna would have raise in honour of Ratzenberger. The two crashes led to a major overhaul of safety in the sport.

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/3838.html#ocVJlHltWxUKlYr0.99

Edited December 30, 2013 by Mr2low

[jeffbebe 1559]

Beg to differ upto Senna's death

But as Skidz said, only Senna was an F1 Champ, right?

But not the point... Hope he pulls through.

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[Mr2low 57]

Lol mis read that bit my bad

[yng_750 247]

Unless they're your words you need to credit your source.

really? didnt think a casual thread was subject to exam rules.

could everyone please refrain from giving jamie money for that post in anycase.

[yng_750 247]

EDIT: using the internet while tired makes you a wanker.

Edited January 2, 2014 by jason H

[Mr2low 57]

Really guys best place to swing hand bags is it

[pldubs 308]

A legend of F1 and inspiration to anyone who drives is in a f**king coma and you wankers are worried about silly sh*t? Btw bros making people wrong only makes you look like a c**t.

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Edited January 2, 2014 by pldubs

[yng_750 247]

agreed. sorry guys wasnt really appropriate.

im hoping the lack of news about schumacher over the past few days is a good sign.

if anyone else has read richard hammonds biography about his jet car crash it has some very good info on this type of injury.

basically you either go down hill fast or very very slowly get better.

lets hope he can make a similar recovery.

[5amchris 45]

=( Not looking to good.

[gjm 3194]

I don't like the guy at all - probably bearing a grudge since the Adelaide GP in '94. Still hope he pulls through.

[MoJoJoe 46]

I don't like the guy at all - probably bearing a grudge since the Adelaide GP in '94. Still hope he pulls through.

Kind of same here. but forbade myself from saying it here among his fans, death of one person is a tragedy, death of a few million is a statistic of which most dont care. but as dave points out, he became more likable over the years I suppose, like it or not guy is a racing legend and would be a loss to the F1 scene, but I myself don't care enough for just his legacy of a F1 legend, No, but for the sake of his family I hope he does pull through and drives down the track one last time.

[Phil-540i 166]

Was reading a paper today where they were saying he's still in a coma. Same article reckoned his helmet disintergrated / failed during the ski accident, due to the camera he had mounted on it.

I guess in someways that's maybe something we should all consider, in relation to how / where Go-Pro's etc are mounted at times............

[yng_750 247]

How does a gopro disintergrate a helmet?. I heard he hit a rock and the g force hurt him. Ski helmets dont have alot of cushioning.

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[Phil-540i 166]

Dunno, I'm just going off what the paper said, but it is logical in that if a camera gets caught between a rock & a helmet, momentum and force will drive the camera into the weaker object, ie in this case, the helmet........

Same thing would likely happen with a push-bike helmet and ATV Ag-hat too...............

[Phil-540i 166]

Just found a article - http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Michael+Schumacher+exploding+helmet/9514824/story.html

[cliffdunedin 8]

So seems like Schumi's pulling through.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/michael-schumacher-latest-driver-showing-moments-of-consciousness-and-awakening-claims-manager-9238179.html

[yng_750 247]

Finally out of his coma by the looks. Apparently not a hoax this time.

[deeveus 81]

Good news. He needs to go home now and start working on his retirement. He's obviously not the stig like people thought, as TG was airing whilst Schumi was crook.

[5amchris 45]

Airing not filming. But i couldn't see why they would use him again after his coming out and all.. Anyways, good news hope he can get back to a state where he can enjoy the rest of his life.