darren_mk 61 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 Hi, I own a B3S back in the UK, http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/alpina/2003-bmw-alpina-b3s-touring/2662050?isexperiment=true and if it dosent sell before the uk winter i will consider bringing it over here. Has anyone done this recently to give me some idea of costs involved with shipping and import duty? I have heard the car needs to be totally drained of every fluid etc... to be imported, is this true? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmarco 56 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 Drained of fluids? Maybe if you are airfreighting it.... Most people use roll on roll off car freighters - have a search of the site, this question has been raised a couple of times recently. In your situation, you may not need to pay GST and the frontal crash & emissions regulations might not be applicable - but i'm not sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2132 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 no idea of cost sorry but cool car!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haitoman 110 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 I have just brought both of my cars from the UK. I know eveything you need to know. pm me. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobD 41 Report post Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) The petrol tank needs to be completely drained. Not all fluids. If you have owned the car for 12 months or more in the UK then you don't need to pay GST. Expect around £1,500 for shipping via container (recommended if you want to minimise chances of damage) plus £300-£400 agents' fees in the UK and NZ. Compliance is $500 plus any repairs required. Take those costs and add on around 10% for miscellaneous costs which I guarantee you will arise! Oh and marine insurance which depends on value of course but bargain on around £250. Edited August 16, 2014 by RobD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haitoman 110 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 The petrol tank needs to be completely drained. Not all fluids. If you have owned the car for 12 months or more in the UK then you don't need to pay GST. Expect around £1,500 for shipping via container (recommended if you want to minimise chances of damage) plus £300-£400 agents' fees in the UK and NZ. Compliance is $500 plus any repairs required. Take those costs and add on around 10% for miscellaneous costs which I guarantee you will arise! Oh and marine insurance which depends on value of course but bargain on around £250. No...no and no. This is all not true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobD 41 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 I just imported a car from the UK in October. It is entirely accurate. What is your basis for claiming it isn't true? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahmedsinc 414 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 We need more cars like this in NZ! Bring it over man, even if you end up selling it I'd be fairly confident you'll make back the cost of importing it. Mmmmmm, Alpina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haitoman 110 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 I was not asked to drain any of my fluids (petrol had to be below 1/4). Insurance was included to the NZ agent depot. NZD3k per car - two in one 40ft container. No UK agents fees. GST was prorata to 8% as I had owned one of them for only 6 months. NZD500 compliance plus first rego costs. No other costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2959 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 Darren, the first thing you need to find out is whether your car can be complied when it arrives in NZ. Being a 2003 Alpina I think it might struggle to meet the emissions requirements. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vtgts300kw 90 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 Darren, the first thing you need to find out is whether your car can be complied when it arrives in NZ. Being a 2003 Alpina I think it might struggle to meet the emissions requirements. Would the rare or collectible rule apply? Doesn't that get around some of the emissions requirements? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deeveus 81 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 That would definetley get a 2nd, 4th, 8th look as it drove past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2425 Report post Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) might be able to get it in under SIV if it doesnt comply, but you'd be lucky. Needs to meet this criteria To have a vehicle identified as a special interest vehicle, the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) must deem it to have historic value or it must meet three of the following four requirements: The vehicle (or its make, model and submodel) is identified as being a collector's item in one of the following magazines or their respective websites – Australian classic car, Car and driver (US), Automobile (US), Motor (Australia), Motor trend (US), New Zealand autocar, New Zealand classic car, Road and track (US), Top gear (UK), Top gear NZ,Unique cars (Australia) or Wheels (Australia). The vehicle's make and model has been (or was) manufactured in annual volumes of 20,000 units or less. The vehicle is, and was manufactured as, a two-door coupe or a convertible. The vehicle is, and was manufactured as, a high-performance vehicle. Edited August 17, 2014 by KwS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2959 Report post Posted August 18, 2014 Plus all the SIV permits have been issued since ages ago, only so many cars per year... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darren_mk 61 Report post Posted August 18, 2014 Flip - what a load of hassle its going to be as its 2003. Lets hope it sells back in the UK...... Thanks for the replies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RvT 9 Report post Posted August 18, 2014 Plus all the SIV permits have been issued since ages ago, only so many cars per year... Where do you find this info from as a mate is trying to bring something in? He was told it is only 200 cars per year but they won't tell him anything until you pay the application fee? Anyone know when the new allocation of 200 comes due again - day / month ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2959 Report post Posted August 18, 2014 I work closely with the NZTA / LTSA, or whatever they are called this week, often around compliance issues and bringing cars into the country. Conversations often wander a little off topic. The figure of 200 is exactly what I was told, but I'm not sure when the quota is reset, however I did hear that all the SIVs were "used up for this year" which would suggest there will be a queue of people into next year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 1061 Report post Posted August 18, 2014 Correct if I am wrong but if it is a personal car that you have owned for longer than 12 months it doesn't have to meet emissions, impact laws and GST. Id give these guys are call as they could tell you http://www.mmnz.biz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobSagat 1 Report post Posted August 18, 2014 The petrol tank needs to be completely drained. Not all fluids. If you have owned the car for 12 months or more in the UK then you don't need to pay GST. Expect around £1,500 for shipping via container (recommended if you want to minimise chances of damage) plus £300-£400 agents' fees in the UK and NZ. Compliance is $500 plus any repairs required. Take those costs and add on around 10% for miscellaneous costs which I guarantee you will arise! Oh and marine insurance which depends on value of course but bargain on around £250. Costs are a pretty high there mate. That might be what hes referring to. If you are immigrating here, its pretty straight forward, there's separate rules around immigrant vehicles. No to draining it, just make sure its low on fuel, Just have to pay GST on purchase price plus shipping. Depending on how they calculate a GST rate on immigrant vehicles, you would be looking around 5200 NZD to get it here inc GST. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobSagat 1 Report post Posted August 18, 2014 Where do you find this info from as a mate is trying to bring something in? He was told it is only 200 cars per year but they won't tell him anything until you pay the application fee? Anyone know when the new allocation of 200 comes due again - day / month ? They have gone, there is a number you can call on the top of the application form they will tell you the same, they went in March. Good news is another 200 will be up at the start of the 15 year. You do need to OWN the car, and really have to have it in NZ for the process to work, as the SIV is pretty particular to the car, and there are tight time frames around getting them on the road. If you don't comply with the time frames your SIV goes back into the pool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2959 Report post Posted August 18, 2014 Correct if I am wrong but if it is a personal car that you have owned for longer than 12 months it doesn't have to meet emissions, impact laws and GST. Id give these guys are call as they could tell you http://www.mmnz.biz It's all on the NZTA web-site if you can work out how to find things on there. The only trouble with going down that route is that the car has to be flagged as an "Immigrant Vehicle" on the register and it will stay listed as such forever - not sure what that would do for the resale value could put off potential buyers, which is why I avoided it. Not sure of the full process to go down that channel either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vtgts300kw 90 Report post Posted September 16, 2014 Chris Harris ( the motoring journalist ) has just tweeted about your car, saying it was a honey when he had it as a long term press car. Should drive a few views to your sale ad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2425 Report post Posted September 16, 2014 Check out the guy in the twitter comments wanking on about how much the headgasket will cost to do when it "inevitably fails".... O_o Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vtgts300kw 90 Report post Posted September 16, 2014 Check out the guy in the twitter comments wanking on about how much the headgasket will cost to do when it "inevitably fails".... O_o Much like youtube comments, I tend to stay away from twitter commentary. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
