Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 Below are the Lap times for various cars tested by Car and Driver Magazine from 2006 to 2015. The track is Virginia international Raceway and the track is 4.1 miles long. Some very interesting lap times and some suposedly fast cars that perhaps are not quite so fast as we may think. The coloured blocks relate to where Car & Driver put them based on their category, price etc. 1 2015 Porsche 918 Spyder 2:43.1 2 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 2:44.6 3 2015 McLaren 650S Spider 2:45.8 4 2009 Mosler MT900S 2:45.9 5 2015 Lamborghini Huracán LP610-4 2:47.5 6 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR coupe 2:48.6 7 2015 Nissan GT-R NISMO 2:49.4 8 2012 Mosler Photon 2:49.8 9 2014 SRT Viper TA 2:49.9 10 2012 Ferrari 458 Italia 2:49.9 11 2015 Porsche 911 GT3 2:50.4 12 2012 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 2:50.7 13 2014 Ferrari F12berlinetta 2:50.8 14 2015 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2:50.9 15 2016 Mercedes-AMG GT S 2:51.0 16 2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S 2:51.2 17 2010 Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera 2:51.8 18 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 2:51.8 19 2009 KTM X-Bow 2:52.3 20 2012 Nissan GT-R 2:53.2 21 2011 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 2:53.5 22 2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 2:53.8 23 2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SV 2:53.9 24 2008 Ferrari 430 Scuderia 2:54.6 25 2012 Lexus LFA 2:55.1 26 2009 Nissan GT-R 2:55.6 27 2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 2:55.9 28 2016 Cadillac CTS-V 2:56.8 29 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 2:57.4 30 2014 Audi R8 V-10 Plus 2:57.5 31 2013 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 2:57.5 32 2011 Porsche 911 Turbo S 2:57.5 33 2009 Ariel Atom 3 2:57.6 34 2012 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Black Series 2:58.0 35 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG 2:58.0 36 2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 2:58.2 37 2010 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport 2:58.8 38 2013 Porsche 911 Carrera S 2:58.9 39 2009 Nissan GT-R (all-season tires) 2:59.0 40 2014 Mercedes-Benz SL63 AMG 2:59.1 41 2014 Jaguar XKR-S GT 2:59.1 42 2015 Mercedes-AMG C63 S 2:59.2 43 2016 Cadillac ATS-V coupe 2:59.2 44 2010 Audi R8 5.2 FSI Quattro 2:59.5 45 2016 Cadillac ATS-V sedan 2:59.8 46 2014 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG S-model 3:00.1 47 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 3:00.6 48 2015 BMW M4 3:00.7 49 2012 Porsche Panamera Turbo S 3:00.7 50 2006 Ford GT 3:00.7 51 2015 Jaguar F-type R coupe 3:01.0 52 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 3:01.1 53 2008 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 3:01.2 54 2013 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE 3:01.5 55 2006 Dodge Viper SRT10 coupe 3:01.6 56 2007 Porsche 911 GT3 3:01.8 57 2013 Jaguar XKR-S 3:02.1 58 2014 Porsche Cayman S 3:02.6 59 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca 3:02.8 60 2014 Audi RS7 3:03.0 61 2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 3:03.6 62 2011 Porsche Boxster Spyder 3:03.8 63 2012 Porsche Cayman R 3:03.9 64 2011 Ford Shelby GT500 3:04.0 65 2009 Cadillac CTS-V 3:04.0 66 2013 Porsche Boxster S 3:04.2 67 2011 Cadillac CTS-V coupe 3:04.2 68 2013 Audi RS5 3:04.3 69 2007 Lotus Exige S 3:04.5 70 2007 Audi R8 3:04.6 71 2013 BMW M6 3:04.7 72 2012 Audi TT RS 3:04.8 73 2012 Mercedes-Benz CLS63 AMG 3:04.9 74 2009 Lotus Exige S 260 Sport 3:05.0 75 2015 Ford Mustang GT 3:05.2 76 2013 BMW M5 3:05.2 77 2012 Lotus Evora S 3:05.3 78 2011 Lexus IS F 3:05.4 79 2009 BMW M3 3:05.4 80 2008 BMW M3 3:05.6 81 2015 Lexus RC F 3:05.8 82 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S 3:05.8 83 2009 Porsche Cayman S 3:05.8 84 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo 3:05.8 85 2014 Mercedes-Benz CLA45 AMG 3:05.9 86 2007 Ford Shelby GT500 3:05.9 87 2012 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG coupe 3:06.3 88 2010 Jaguar XKR 3:06.4 89 2008 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG 3:06.5 90 2011 BMW 1-series M 3:06.6 91 2014 Jaguar XFR-S 3:06.7 92 2014 Cadillac CTS Vsport 3:06.8 93 2011 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG 3:06.9 94 2014 BMW M235i 3:07.2 95 2010 Ford Shelby GT500 3:07.4 96 2011 Lotus Evora 3:08.3 97 2009 Audi TTS 3:08.4 98 2011 Ford Mustang GT 3:08.6 99 2015 Alfa Romeo 4C 3:08.8 100 2011 Jaguar XFR 3:08.9 101 2006 Lotus Elise 3:09.2 102 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 3:09.3 103 2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392 3:09.4 104 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS 3:09.5 105 2006 Porsche Cayman S 3:09.5 106 2013 Audi S6 3:09.8 107 2006 BMW M6 3:10.0 108 2012 Dodge Charger SRT8 3:10.1 109 2012 BMW Z4 sDrive35is 3:10.4 110 2015 Subaru WRX STI 3:10.5 111 2007 BMW 335i coupe 3:10.5 112 2010 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution SE 3:10.6 113 2010 Audi S4 3:10.8 114 2007 Ford Shelby GT500 3:11.0 115 2012 BMW X5 M 3:11.1 116 2007 Audi RS4 3:11.2 117 2015 Audi S3 3:11.2 118 2007 BMW Z4 M coupe 3:11.7 119 2009 Nissan 370Z NISMO 3:12.0 120 2015 Volkswagen Golf R 3:12.3 121 2011 Ford Mustang V-6 3:12.5 122 2006 Nissan 350Z Track 3:12.5 123 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS 3:13.0 124 2012 BMW 335i Sport Line 3:13.2 125 2010 Ford Mustang GT 3:13.3 126 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR 3:13.3 127 2014 Lexus IS350 F Sport 3:13.4 128 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR 3:13.5 129 2008 BMW 135i 3:13.7 130 2012 BMW 335is 3:13.8 131 2011 Subaru Impreza WRX STI sedan 3:13.8 132 2011 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 R-spec 3:13.8 133 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 R-spec 3:13.9 134 2012 Volkswagen Golf R 3:14.0 135 2008 Lexus IS F 3:14.0 136 2015 Volkswagen GTI 3:14.6 137 2008 Audi S5 3:14.6 138 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 3:14.8 139 2008 Honda S2000 CR 3:15.0 140 2015 Mini John Cooper Works Hardtop 3:15.4 141 2015 Subaru WRX 3:15.5 142 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost 3:15.6 143 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP 3:15.7 144 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 3:16.0 145 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 3:16.2 146 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 3:16.3 147 2011 Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan 3:16.5 148 2009 Subaru Impreza WRX 3:16.6 149 2008 Lotus Elise SC 3:16.6 150 2010 Mazda RX-8 R3 3:16.7 151 2009 Mini Cooper JCW 3:17.1 152 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 3:17.4 153 2008 Infiniti G37S 3:17.5 154 2014 Ford Focus ST 3:17.6 155 2013 Dodge Charger Pursuit 3:17.8 156 2006 Dodge Charger SRT8 3:18.2 157 2012 Mini Cooper Coupe JCW 3:18.4 158 2013 Subaru BRZ 3:18.6 159 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI 3:19.0 160 2006 Mazda RX-8 3:19.0 161 2015 Volkswagen GTI 3:19.3 162 2010 Volkswagen GTI 3:19.3 163 2014 Ford Fiesta ST 3:20.4 164 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged 3:20.6 165 2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata Club 3:20.8 166 2008 Dodge Caliber SRT4 3:20.8 167 2006 Ford Mustang GT 3:20.9 168 2013 Ford Focus ST 3:21.4 169 2008 Volkswagen R32 3:21.8 170 2007 Mini Cooper S 3:22.9 171 2013 Chevrolet Caprice PPV 3:23.0 172 2012 Honda Civic Si 3:24.1 173 2008 Honda Civic Si Mugen 3:24.8 174 2007 Volkswagen GTI 3:25.1 175 2006 Honda Civic Si 3:26.5 176 2008 Volvo C30 Version 2.0 3:26.6 177 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth 3:27.3 178 2012 Volkswagen Jetta GLI 3:27.3 179 2006 Mazda MX-5 3:29.3 180 2015 Honda Fit EX 3:37.7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 Some 2016 Lap times, The new Camaro SS 1LE did it in 2.54 and the 1LE V6 did it in 3.04, the M4 GTS did it in 2.53. The Mustang GT350 2.52, BMW M2 3.01, Ferrari 488 GTB 2.45. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matth5 471 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 "BMW 335i coupe" has a 3 sec faster time than the 335is and 135i? 335is is the US model 335i with performance power kit, some unique body bits, and came with DCT - only way Americans could get DCT on the 335i. No way it's slower. They must have had a slower driver or worse conditions, look how close the Golf GTI's time is to them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) The US is hot perhaps the 335is was heat affected, pulled timing etc. Day it was tested could have been a lot warmer. The N54 is not heat tolerant for long lap stints. Edit just noticed the 335is was 2012 so probably an N55. It could have been tyres? It's a big track and small things make big differences on big tracks. Edited June 4, 2017 by Herbmiester Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matth5 471 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 335is in the US was N54 only. Yep true heat is likely. Don't think the car tells you right away that it's pulling timing from heat so they probably didn't know. Edited June 4, 2017 by Matth5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2078 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 It's an amazing track. The vehicles that turn up there for standard track days are jaw dropping. The International part of its name would be due to the quality of the facility. It is of a very high standard. Hosts some very big races here. Lots of international names. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) While lap times will vary day to day it is still useful to judge where cars sit in the big scheme of things. Also you will see that some cars were tested in the same year that means they were tested at the same time as this is based on an annual event. Edited June 5, 2017 by E30 325i Rag-Top Tidied up to remove un-necessary parts 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) So I post up something that could stimulate a bit of chat about fast cars. Edited June 5, 2017 by E30 325i Rag-Top Tidied up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 I find it quite interesting just how quick the Nissan GTR's are. For such a big heavy car they can set some pretty spectacular lap times. Also the Camaro Z28 's is quite outstanding, sure it has a 7l engine and 305 tyres up front but for a car that based on the Holden Commodore it moves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zero 1162 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 The american cars have come a long way in the handling stakes in the last few years. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, zero said: The american cars have come a long way in the handling stakes in the last few years. Personally I think this is good as it puts the established sports/performance car makers on notice. It will of course struggle to erode the brand cachet that European manufacturers have. However the good thing about the Euro manufacturers is the emergence of more affordable performance cars, M2, CLA and RS3. I think we are in such a great time for affordably quick cars especially in NZ as we can get second hand 335is for $20K, Nissan GTRS for 70k and 996 911's for less than 40k. Edited June 5, 2017 by Herbmiester 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 Here are some Lap times from Motoring.co.au during the "Australias Best Drivers Car event. HSV GTSR W1 Porsche Cayman S Alfa Romeo Giulia QV BMW M3 Competition Pack Luke Youlden: 58.061 LY: 58.227 LY: 58.728 LY: 58.802 Greg Crick: 59.364 GC: 59.542 GC: 1:00.504 GC: 1:00.446 Nissan GT-R Ford Focus RS Audi S5 Mercedes-AMG C 43 4Matic LY: 59.098 LY: 1:01.113 LY: 1:01.327 LY: 1:01.558 GC: 59.868 GC: 1:02.268 GC: 1:02.210 GC: 1:02.271 BMW M140i Performance Edition Volkswagen Golf GTI Abarth 124 Spider LY: 1:02.099 LY: 1:03.604 LY: 1:05.572 GC: 1:03.510 GC: 1:06.014 GC: 1:06.999 Interesting how many cars beat the Nissan GTR. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwhelan 241 Report post Posted June 11, 2017 it amazes me how easily little cars can match the bigger when the track is only 59s long, on the longer track with higher speed on straights the difference is bigger and how much white knuckle ringing it took. Watching cars on top gear track its hard to predict what a fast lap is to another, some look fast and some look effortless and then the times can tell another story. Some of the car makers must be right royally annoyed at the times due to temperatures and weather. for the aus times a better test would be what state the cars would be in after say 4 laps, have brakes gone, engines overheating, I'm sure theres a bigger difference and I'd expect the GTR to be built to do it all day. A buyer wants to know that surely 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites