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your car already has some! i wish i had an e34 to put it on.

I cant be bothered TBH, just sent him another email saying ill refund his money $300 when he sends me the phone. No point wasting time over something like this. Will either try to diagnose the problem PROPERLY or just sell it as is on trademe saying "faulty iphone". There seems to be a lot of self-made iphone repairers that buy these for cheap and sell for crazy prices.

The throttle difference similar to say the m54b30 vs m52b28? I love the shoe too. I mean shape

i have done enough screens to know that myself too, but damage usually comes sooner rather than later. the replacement screen etc was done months before me selling it. i claimed mint condition because it was in a case and never dropped. edit: do you know what the blue screen problem is? i found not much online

but to be honest i dont think that the new screen and new back panel etc is the cause of the problem, because it was working fine after those repairs were done months ago.

just checked the guys feedback http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=754552090 this was just a couple of weeks before he purchased my iphone. he made a bid of $299 on an iphone "8GB" at 3:46pm and then asked Hi I also require a recipt for the iphone saying its two months old before I pay, It does work on Telecom doesn't it. ?Thanks s*** 3:50 pm, Tue 22 Jul then didnt go through with the trade. the seller relisted and sold to someone else with positive feedback..

the phone was repaired by a professional repair technician and i can prove that. no worries

it doesnt matter if its $3 or $30000 the principle is that he basically accused me of selling him a faulty phone and didnt want to negotiate any other deal than a full refund. a full refund would NOT be fair to me would it? edit: btw i would never buy something like this sight unseen, and if it had problems down the line i would get an assesment, talk to the seller and negotiate something half way, compromise with the fact that its not exactly anyones fault, its just the whole process of buying and selling used goods. this guy obviously doesnt understand that things actually do go wrong sometimes.

like i said to him a thousand times, i would be fine to pay him some "stress relief payment" to get past it all but he only wanted a full refund and i wasnt going to just casually accept that.. cars and phones are much alike, they can develop problems at any time and any place. your sons mother got caught unlucky that it happened to her at that moment but hey what do you expect buying an MG hatch in purple! same thing as what do u expect buying a used iphone 4? just because it develops problems a few days or a few weeks down the line it doesnt mean that i somehow programmed it to happen at that moment after its sold. If i was trying to sell a broken phone i would sell it as a broken phone. i gain bad rep and unhappy faces if i try to pull some scamming stint like this on purpose. I tried to make it right and he only wanted it his way or the highway. so highway it is..

i checked the delivery date, he got it on thursday 11.30am and emailed me on sunday. that gives him plenty of time to mess it up its a phone. plug it into a virus infected computer or drop it. im up 300 minus a Perfectly working phone. if i refund him the full 300 hes back to square one but im at a loss with a supposedly faulty phone. his feedback is good, i dont blame him to be a fraudster or scammer. My point is that this is what happens SOMETIMES in a sale of used goods. Ive checked the Consumer affairs website. buy now on trademe is regarded as a private sale. no CGA and no Fair trading act. I dont even think something happened in transit. it might have just gone wrong on its own. its not like this is a piece of wool clothing that just unravels itself. its a phone, an IPHONE they can break anytime and this is an iphone 4 released some 5 years ago...

how can you know if it wasnt his own fault that caused the problems?

I totally understand what you are saying. yes, if what he claims is true about the phone, the buyer is the one people would feel sympathetic towards but this is only really the case if I (as the seller) was trying to scam him of offloading a faulty phone. This is what he believes is the case, and what some others might think. Yes i know its my word against his but if for example i was his friend, or he was my friend, and this was a private sale. He knew my integrity and the fact that i wouldnt try to scam a friend, bought a phone off me and it went wrong. he would understand, wouldnt take me to DT and would try to settle it like a sensible person would. what difference is there if he actually regarded me as a normal, legitimate seller trying to sell honest items as I always have done it in the past. it isnt a case of "misrepresentation" as it was represented correctly. "mint condition" and "excellent condition" accurately described the phone when it was in my posession. professionally refurbished applies to the 4 parts mentioned and there doesnt seem to be anything wrong with that. i have 350 odd independent feedback on tm and he has 220. i dont think this will be the deciding factor however.

http://www.consumeraffairs.govt.nz/for-consumers/goods/second-hand-goods unless im "in trade" CGA doesnt apply. fair trading act applies There shouldnt be burden of proof to me especially because its a phone. anything can go wrong with one drop of the phone even if it was in a case. he cant prove that the phone was faulty as soon as he got it. 1 day seems like a short time but its enough for anything to go wrong. Edit: I can get the person who fixed it to confirm via phone or email that the phone was in great working order when it was getting refurbished. The buyer cannot prove that the phone was faulty before it arrived because it wouldnt have been. when it left me it was turned off, safely packaged and sent via nz post courier. he would have got it, turned it on, plugged it in, blah blah and boom. have a problem now. not my fault.

it sold using buy now. if that makes a difference.

i doubt they have anything like that. I dont even think he took it to a telecom technician. all he could tell me was "the technician said it was faulty" hes not very helpful or trying to make an effort.

its not my first time selling on trademe. last time i sold an imac it developed a software issue randomly that would keep the fan on always. buyer made contact after a month! we discussed the problem, i found a program that controls the fan that could be purchased online for 40 odd us dollars and i transferred her like $25 to pay towards it. i didnt have to do any of that especially after 1 month but this way everyone is happy and it only cost me few bucks. this guy, goes straight to a telecom "technician" to find out "yes, its faulty"... doesnt provide evidence of this, doesnt provide evidence of phone problem, what does he expect me to do? if you look at the time stamps i always replied him within minutes! it would take him hours or next day! ridiculous

lol im moving soon too, cant wait to lose stuff and find it all over again! how exciting.

just quickly accelerate from 79km to 101km and set cruise control. problem solved! haha but really, thrust arms are worth doing regardless and might as well get all 4 wheels balanced instead of just front 2

paying 150 is better than paying 300. its not as good as paying $0 but hey, like i said i was willing to make compromise from the get go and he wasnt. edit: You bet I will. Thanks for all the help. and another reminder to always keep record of what you sell! (btw hope your move to akl went smoothly darren!)

unfortunately i forgot to keep any record of this particular phone. i usually have plenty of photos and screenshots of the model imei serial number etc but yea.. i dont think he is trying to pull such a tricky trick but yea..you never know!!

no he hasnt. and thats my point also. Ive asked him for receipt for the "check up" by the telecom store technician. he hasnt given me any detailed description of the problem despite me asking him. To Be Orsum, i dont mind coughing up $300 for it. its not a huge deal and its not gonna break the bank. But hes being unreasonable and not very nice about it. throwing in words like court, taking it further, consumer guarantees act 1993, isnt really going to scare me i know my rights and even if the disputes tribunal asks me to pay its obviously not going to be more than 300.. unless he tries to fabricate something about the technician costs or whatever... edit: just wondering how this works with us being in different cities??

do you mean TBH to be honest .....or TBO to be Onest? haha cheers. Sorry for the long boring read.

Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 12:05 PM Hello Kyu, This iphone 4 # "mint condition"is in very good condition but has a fault, a blue screen with lines comes up when left, You have to press the power button to get rid of it so you can get to the wallpaper screen with the time on it , This was advertised as ''MINT''with not problems. I;m not sure If I'm going to keep it with this software fault and unless you can help me out with this I will be sending it back and requesting a refund. Thanks sj Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 12:12 PM Hi sj I know this doesnt sound very convincing but in all honesty i have never experienced such a problem. The phone was working perfectly fine and I was not aware of this issue. Have you tried a restore? As youve said it sounds like a software fault since its working fine otherwise am i right? Can you tell me any more detail? Any other symptoms or issues? Have you dropped the phone since receiving it? I have had great feedback and I care about the items that I sell. I am happy to come to a solution with you so keep in touch. Kind regards Kyu Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:35 AM Hello Kyu, Bad news Im afraid. I have just returned from the Telecom shop and paid a technician to check out the BLUE SCREEN fault with this i phone, The diagnoses was not good. This phone is faulty,and was not caused by me since I have had it. I am requesting a full refund of $300 from you for this phone. I wish to bubble wrap and post back to you. Can you confirm your post box number. Auckland my account number to transfer funds is Thanks sj

the refurb was quite a while ago and the repair wasnt on record

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=762470074