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For those who struggle with finding an 18mm spanner, a 3/8 BSW or 7/16 BSF works beautifully. That's what I used.

I've updated my project thread, but there's no fixings under the black plastic mouldings (I removed them hoping there would be!) and insufficient room to easily get the torx bolts out. I took the whole lot off as a single lump. <sigh>

I've said a little about attempts to fit a towbar to the 320d. Efforts yesterday evening were, I now know, doomed to failure. For reasons unknown, our car is a teensy bit different to some others. All suggestions received were valid. And more than likely would work on some other Tourings. Not ours, sadly. The only way to remove the bumper on our car is to remove the entire frame and all. It's not possible to get to the bumper mount torx bolts to release them while the bumper is on the car - even if there were holes in the underside of the bumper, the plastic trim holding the reversing sensors obscures access to the bolt heads. And removing that is a no-no... 6 or more plastic push pins, and plastic locking tongues. Most of which you can't see. Just unclipping the four connectors is a bit of a mission. So, I removed lots of in-boot trim. Then, using my 18mm spanners and sockets (everyone has 18mm, right? Check the sets available in Repco and SCA and you'll see why I say that) I loosened the 6 nuts on the back of the bolts securing the bumper mounts to the car. Hmm. actually, only 4 were doing anything... More on that in a bit. Have you tried being under the car holding a spanner on something you can't see while being in the boot holding another spanner or ratchet? Got there in the end. Once the bumper is off the car, things don't look quite right. When the previous towbar was fitted, the bumper mounts were cut, completely removing one of the mounting holes. (See what I mean about only 4 bolts doing anything? I didn't know this until it was off the car.) Pics showing the location of the torx bolts: It looks like you could get to them, but there's only about 40mm between the head and the plastic part of the bumper. Add in being under the car and trying to avoid everything else under there, with a very limited arc to swing a tool through, and it's just not worth the grief. Especially as the mounting bracket has to come off anyway. The towbar itself, as collected from Nathan, complete with bolts, nuts and washers (thanks Nathan. ). The bar bolts through the bumper mounts, and there are four bolts which bolt through the rear vertical wall of the spare wheel well, and two more bolts which bolt through the bottom of the spare wheel well. (Our car did once have a towbar and there are two holes in the bottom of the spare wheel well, but none in the rear vertical wall.) It fits on the car. You can see three of the four mounting points against the rear wall of the spare wheel well. The bolts on the towbar are all a much more usual 19mm head. Unfortunately the mounts to the bottom of the spare wheel well are not only in a different place, but also sit 0.25-0.5" below the well. Possibly the difference between a spare wheel well for a space-saver tyre and one designed to hold a 'proper' wheel? Regardless, that'll need sorting. In the interests of checking things out, I have persuaded the towbar and rear bumper to mate. This shows how the bumper mount sits against the towbar. Now, I could grind back a little more bumper mount, space the towbar off the body, and fit it all up. Or, I could get another couple of bumper mounts and do the job properly. I'm putting it all back together without the towbar. I'll get the bumper mounts. I'm going to need to grind the lip (circled in red) back on the new mounts anyway... When (finally) getting this sorted, I'll mount the towbar on to the mounts and then mount the bumper on to the towbar. Then mount the whole lot as a unit back on to the car. ... but at least I can be happy knowing everything is so much closer to how it really should be. Looking at the bar when fitted on the car, the lateral bar that bolts under the spare wheel well looks as though if it were unpicked, turned over and re-welded, it should fit nicely. Bit of a faff, but again, it means it's done properly. Right. Best get it all back together. Need to have it on the road so I can go to work in the morning! I've marked the holes in the vertical wall of the spare wheel well, so I'll drill (and plug) those now in prep for doing it all again another time. And to think I could have been chatting at Kyu's and enjoying some sunshine and coffee!!

Thanks. I'll have a look when it warms up a bit. It's bleedin' chilly out there right now!

That's the problem. I have plastic push pins where I expected to find screws (fair enough), but there are no holes in the underside of the bumper!

It's the rear bumper removal that didn't go according to plan today. A bit more light tomorrow, and I'm sure I can find where the fixings are. I don't think I have to do this from the inside or remove outside trims - the mountings must be underneath somewhere.

Had a look at fitting a towbar to the Touring. Did the usual thing - look on t'internet to see what is required. Absolutely no use whatsoever. Everyone talks about a couple of holes in the underside of the rear valance through which you insert a T50 and release something. Something? Makes no difference... There are no holes in the underside of the rear valance of our car. Then other stuff happened, and it got too dark to see what I was doing. I'll have another look tomorrow.

I drove a Z4 today. 2.5, manual gearbox, metallic grey... Miss M is not having one of them (yet). I'd like one, though!

9.2kg. According to our (obviously inaccurate) bathroom scales. I can't weigh as much as they suggest I do!

You're probably right. A lucky few private buyers may have picked up one or two, but I suspect dealers will have snapped up the rest. Edit: Curiously, when I looked before the cars appeared to be being offered by Tender. Now they look as thought they'll actually be for sale. Maybe they weren't (comparatively) cheap.

For $20k, these represent a remarkable car. They're incredibly unlikely to have a hard life, and could be expected to run for a lo-o-o-ong time yet.

"Here we run a Targa stage through the tiny village of Greenspond, dating to the 17th century. HIghlights include our driver testing the first generation BMW e30 M3 ABS while narrowly avoiding a telephone pole. Co-driver profanity has been deleted." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c1j9Iikpb0

I've seen asking prices (and will accept that some people may pay that much) but that doesn't make them worth that. In my view... Anyone owning a M325i is more than welcome to disagree!

I think $12k is a lot to ask for an E30... At least, anything short of a M3.

Probably listed as 'tender' because Turners aren't allowed to say what the original purchase price was. A question though... Did Turners buy these ex-government and resell them, or did they sell on behalf? Probably the latter, I'd guess. (What happened to government auctions?) It would be interesting to see what they sold for, but it's likely most will have gone to dealers.

From the October 1991 issue of Road & Track. http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a28954/european-supertest-german-thundercars/

I'd certainly not lower it as far as it has been in the pics. Not my 'thing.' If I get time I may try 'lifting' the car in the image slightly to see how things look then.

https://streetstandard.com/pandem-e30-bmw-rocket-bunny-kit-has-arrived-pandem-e30/

I doubt I had much input to this, but I have been pestering for an E30 kit...

I wasn't holding the phone to take the pic.

It's already nearer 301k !

I'll drop you a(nother) PM.

Kinda keen... And I'll be south of Greytown in a few days' time. just very unlikely to have space in the car for a set of rims, let alone a set with tyres on.